[tygrus]

Its funny to think we have Snowden in exile, Assange in hiding and Bradley Manning in jail all for letting govt secrets get out. Then we have someone who did the same and they are running for president. Go figure.

 

[TomB19]

How is it that Republicans are "just sure" there is a smoking gun in the lost email? No evidence exists, except in your fantasies, to suggest such.

The only thing I can think of is that you "know" she is guilty and are now looking for evidence.

Hillary is not as bad as she is made out to be. I don't believe Trump is, either.

Trump doesn't have the temperament for the office but I but I believe both are patriots and believe they can help the country be a better place.

Also, either will be a lame duck so don't expect much out of them.

Lastly, they are running for the office of president. They aren't running for God. They don't have all encompassing power. They can't even introduce their own legislation. The job is primarily veto power and diplomacy. Sure, they are the head of their respective parties so they can theoretically inject legislation into congress through their congressional party members but Democrats have limited power in congress and Republicans don't respect Trump (primarily: Paul Ryan).

 

[Argonaut]

The trend is all Trump in the polling and the liberal media cannot even defend against it because the Hillary scandal is just so juicy. Her presidential campaign is now directly associated with the perversions of a man named Weiner. You can't make this stuff up. Whoever wrote the script for this presidential election should get an Oscar next February.

 

[wraphter]

Its funny to think we have Snowden in exile, Assange in hiding and Bradley Manning in jail all for letting govt secrets get out. Then we have someone who did the same and they are running for president. Go figure.

These three intended to make public classified government information. Hillary never intended to make public secret information,but she acted in a negligent way by using a private server that compromised government classified information. For sure she intended not to use the government system.

 

[tygrus]

Unintended (negligence) still has legal repercussions. Look at manslaughter laws.

 

[Nelley]

These three intended to make public classified government information. Hillary never intended to make public secret information,but she acted in a negligent way by using a private server that compromised government classified information. For sure she intended not to use the government system.

Also, Crooked Hillary is a principal in the Clinton Foundation-which is also under an open FBI investigation. There are many facts that point to a conclusion that Crooked Hillary used the state department posting to enrich herself massively through pay to play, basically bribery of her as a US official. This is why she set up the totally "illogical" and unnecessary server in the first place-to provide secrecy for her crime. This criminal puppet isn't at all afraid of the law.

 

[bass player]

The Clinton's have a net worth exceeding $100 million...they never ran a business, invested in real estate, and never invented anything. They made all that money by selling their influence and selling access to the US government.

Some people choose to believe that someone would pay Bill $500,000 just to hear him talk for 30 minutes while his wife was Secretary of State, and not want something in return... :very_drunk:

 

[new dog]

I dont think people realize what will happen here.

The very least, Abedin will be guilty of perjury and fired from the campaign.

Some of 33,000 missing emails are probably on that computer. Could be a smoking gun in there.

Through actions of clinton original server fiasco, her emails got outside the US govt security apparatus onto the laptop of some 3rd rate disgraced congressman. A clear violation of security and clearly out in the open vulnerable to hacking. The cause was clinton herself. I am sure the 650,000 emails are more than idle girl talk.

But lets say none of that happens and its all forgot about and she wins the election. She goes into her 'presidency' as a wounded incumbent much like nixon. She will be faced with an invigorated GOP who will block everything and she will be under active investigation for at least the first 6 months of her term. She could face articles of impeachment. Basically a country in turmoil for better part of 4 years if she survives.

Tell me how on earth this scenario is better than trump at this point?

This scenario could be very bad on two fronts when it comes to Russia.

Number one it could cause Hillary to fight for her presidency while Russia can take advantage of this and make gains where they never thought they could.

Number two it causes Hillary to be extra war hungry causing extreme danger to the earth as she tries to distract and gather power against a common enemy.

 

[olivaw]

Trump side? Not me. Just your pejorative imagination. Typical smear from olivaw.

You strangely forgot to mention that this case was dismissed in California. [/url]

Be honest about your motivation. You've been filling this thread with anti Hillary drivel from the moment you first used this ID. Skip the insults, makes you look as daft as bass player.

The case was dismissed in California for technical filing reasons, not for lack of merit. The case was refiled in New York. All of that information was including in the link that I provided.

Regardless, you've missed the point. These unproven allegations do not a relevant argument make. They're political smears, rendered even less relevant in light of the fact that we can't even vote.

 

[mordko]

Its funny to think we have Snowden in exile, Assange in hiding and Bradley Manning in jail all for letting govt secrets get out. Then we have someone who did the same and they are running for president. Go figure.

Correction: Assange is hiding from a court case on rape allegation.
Snowden and Manning deliberately breached the secrecy act - or whatever it is called.

Hillary's actions are to do with mishandling of information rather than releasing it to the enemy. They fall under the law which requires to demonstrate intent and in her case it's next to impossible to prove.

 

[olivaw]

Nate Silver has Trump's odds of winning up to 23.9%. Betting odds are now 5/2 for Trump (1/3 for Hillary)

The Comey letter switched the media narrative to favour Trump. It may affect individuals who vote based on intuition or make up their mind when they enter the polling booth. If the last thing they read or heard was something that favours Trump, then they are more likely to support him.

Election night could be a nail biter.

 

[humble_pie]

Also, Crooked Hillary is a principal in the Clinton Foundation-which is also under an open FBI investigation.

false. As of today, the above is another Breitbart piece of libel.

nelley haven't you & bass & to a certain extent wraphter been asked to stop posting alt-right lies in the forum. The Bill Still type junk. The stuff any emaciated dyslexic anorexic can pop out of his home video cam.

so why. not. stop. nelley.


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[Nelley]

false. As of today, the above is another Breitbart piece of libel.

nelley haven't you & bass & to a certain extent wraphter been asked to stop posting alt-right lies in the forum. The Bill Still type junk. The stuff any emaciated dyslexic anorexic can pop out of his home video cam.

so why. not. stop. nelley.


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You seem like such a gentle, likeable soul-except for your hatred of skinny little guys like Bill Still. In other news, today Crooked Hillary called Huma Abedin "just one of my staffers" next it will be "an ex-employee" then it will be "the deceased".

 

[TomB19]

The Clinton's have a net worth exceeding $100 million...they never ran a business, invested in real estate, and never invented anything. They made all that money by selling their influence and selling access to the US government.

Some people choose to believe that someone would pay Bill $500,000 just to hear him talk for 30 minutes while his wife was Secretary of State, and not want something in return... :very_drunk:

I was part of organizing a major event for a large corporation in which celebrity speakers were paid to talk about their subject matter. It wasn't on the Bill/Hillary Clinton level, but they had some pretty big names (all of these people had regularly appeared on television) and the speaking fees were surprising. Not $500K surprising, but it wouldn't be much of a stretch to consider the fees we paid and that Bill and/or Hillary could command that kind of money.

 

[Nelley]

Breaking news-the FBI just found 10000 emails on Huma and Weiner's computer-they were in a file marked LIFE INSURANCE.

 

[Argonaut]

I was part of organizing a major event for a large corporation in which celebrity speakers were paid to talk about their subject matter. It wasn't on the Bill/Hillary Clinton level, but they had some pretty big names (all of these people had regularly appeared on television) and the speaking fees were surprising. Not $500K surprising, but it wouldn't be much of a stretch to consider the fees we paid and that Bill and/or Hillary could command that kind of money.

Hillary was paid how many millions in speaking fees to the big banks?
And now she can't even get 100 people to show up to hear her speak for free on the campaign trail.

 

[bass player]

Earlier today Hillary tweeted her condolences regarding the upcoming suicide of James Comey...

 

[olivaw]

Hillary was paid how many millions in speaking fees to the big banks?
And now she can't even get 100 people to show up to hear her speak for free on the campaign trail.

Really? Her attendance figures are reasonable for the venues she chooses. Attendance is in the thousands at rallies. It is more limited in intimate venues with a smaller capacity. Say what you will, Hillary has never had a problem getting people to listen to her. Different campaigns just choose a different strategy.

Don't spending your winnings just yet. Hillary still leads and polls always tighten in the last week of an American presidential campaign. Obama led Romney by only 1% at this point in the 2012 race.

 

[humble_pie]

You seem like such a gentle, likeable soul-except for your hatred of skinny little guys like Bill Still. In other news, today Crooked Hillary called Huma Abedin "just one of my staffers" next it will be "an ex-employee" then it will be "the deceased".

i feel very bad for Huma, a well-educated & well-thought-of young american woman who has served hillary clinton loyally for nearly two decades.

huma could have been any of our colleagues, any of our bosses, any of our classmates, any of our city neighbours, any mother in the toddlers' play group. We would always have known her for her thoughtfulness & her sense of fair play.

yes huma is going to lose her job now, in the midst of the tragic maelstrom that is convulsing america. The action will come too soon on the heels of losing her husband, so i'm left hoping that this slender, delicate woman will be able to bend with the stress & still emerge stronger on the other side of it.

huma has her 4-year-old to protect. In a way, this small boy will be the one person who will play the biggest role in keeping his mother pointed forward.

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[humble_pie]

Earlier today Hillary tweeted her condolences regarding the upcoming suicide of James Comey...

this is as disgusting as your diaper obscenity

what are you, one of those old old old old seniles in a nursing home, getting his jollies from trafficking in filth ...