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The problem is that west is not serious about ending the war.
They are dragging it on, sending just enough support for stalemate. The slow bleeding of Russian army is ideal for the west - but it comes with massive cost to Ukrainian people (not like anyone cares unfortunately).
Spent a week last month with 6 Ukrainian families that are refugees in Central Europe. The stories of what they went through (mostly psychology) are insane
 

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Yeah, the thread is head scratching.

12 decent pieces of equipment sent.
First three flights about to arrive so that's couple hundred of refugees.

My friends and I in a small town in southern Poland have helped and housed more refugees than entire nation of Canada did. Ukrainian is now pretty much most common language heard in the streets during the day. Poland took in 3.5mln refugees, gave free healthcare, public transportation, housing, and work permits, 500zl per month for each child. If you drive on a highway going from Western to Eastern Poland (A4), you are likely to pass at least 3-4 military convoys going to Ukraine at any given moment.

And you are speculating whether small amount of equipment and helping couple hundred/thousand refugees is to much?
 

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They have no choice but to obtain enough ground to have land connection with Crimea. Otherwise it will be a 100% losing effort and even their PR won't be able to spin it.

Doable? Yes. Easy? No. It will not be as easy as Crimea, but if the troops get entrenched there the way they did in Donetsk and Luzhansk, and if official borders don't need to be re-drawn, it might succeed.

Once Russians take defensive positions behind Dnipro, any counterattacks will be very hard to execute, enthusiasm might wear off, and status quo with terrain from Dnipro river, to Luhansk and Donetsk being under quasi-Russian (again, no official redrawing of borders) control might be more acceptable to both sides.

To do that though, Russians need to pretty much give up trying to take over Kharkiv (seems like they are doing so), and stop at Kherson rather than try to go for Odessa and cut Ukraine away from the sea
 

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Yeah, there is some degree of enthusiasm.
Russia was on offensive, clumsy one, and it is easier to defend.
Once Russia will take defensive positions and this time Ukrainian army will counter-attack and encounter losses, supply chain problems, etc. the concessions are likely to look much better.

And again, no official war was declared, and I don't believe Russia hopes to actually re-write the maps. They haven't in Donetsk and Luzhansk. There was no official 'concession' from Ukraine, yet Russia could freely operate in those regions. Same might happen with Mariupol and Kherson
 

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I do understand that.

Which is precisely why I think this can be the 'endgame' for the war.

Russians in control of land strip connecting mainland to Crimea, and the West being satisfied with keeping maps as they are
 

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You forgot to ask Ukrainians what do they want.
Ps The USA opened the land lease and confirmed that they could support Ukraine as long as needed.
Nobody asked what Ukrainians wanted about Donetsk and Luzhansk either. Sadly
I am not saying this is how war should end, I am saying this is likely how it will end

Ukraine made a mistake of trusting the West in 1994, and now reduced themselves to essentially pawns in bigger geopolitical games.
 

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It's absolutely awful! But if we're going to draw lines at democracies being attacked, then I'm definitely all right with that. Fighting for freedom is justified in my books.

But nice to see that you and sags would at least have been willing to offer money and medical aid.
Well, that's an interesting one because who then defines what is democracy?
Russia also has elections. Do we draw a line at state sponsored media? Censorship? Jailing protesters? Jailing opposition leaders?

Where the line actually is - is that the west helps leaders they like
 

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Russian Social Media Swamped With Video Evidence Of Ballot-Box Stuffing
Have you been in Russia? People actually love Putin. Not a surprise since media loves him and people do and think what media tells them to do/think.
That's why governments are jumping in to throw money at media outlets.

If you believe that if elections were completely free, then the result would be any different, then you don't realize just how badly brainwashed people are. Democracy doesn't exist once governments start being main source of funds for media
 

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Sags, Lay off whatever substances you are on. The vote was 86-11. That's bipartisan

Yup........and that is why Fox News hosts are attacking the Republicans who voted for it.

Tucker Carlson started the day after the vote was passed and it has ramped up every since.

They now tie school shootings, drugs, immigration, baby formula, and Hunter Biden's laptop with the money.

It is ridiculous but that is what Fox News does well.

Fox News is the #1 news source for Republicans and Carlson is their #1 guy.
And CBC is number #1 news source for Canadians and it is state-sponsored media.
What's your point?
 

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His response also doesn't make sense because it is a result of not being able to comprehend previous message.

The previous message didn't state that 'Current regulations have common sense gun laws'
The previous message stated that 'None of the proposed bills have common sense gun laws'

The entire issue with legislation is that rather than taking small steps, that are bi-partisan, and improve on existing situation, the bills try to take massive leaps, add unrelated pork and push other priorities, and as a result don't get passed.

Pass common sense, logical solution - and the bills will get bipartisan support.
Push other priorities in and try to overreach - and don't be surprised the laws don't pass
 

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I suppose it wouldn't be so disturbing if the people who were purchasing those 350 rounds were appropriately screened first. And knowing that they were loading a single shot rifle versus a semi-automatic. That would be a good thing.
And that could be easily done if the changes to screening process were done in a standalone bill, without extra pork added.

That's big part of the problem in politics - instead of small incremental changes, there is a trend of megabills, with completely unrelated things being put together and voted on at the same time, so there is no chance to say 'yes' to one aspect of a bill without saying 'yes' to all of them.
Small incremental changes would be much easier to pass and would make improvements easier to implement, but it would make harder to shovel crap together with some good ideas so no politicians are interested
 

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Germany is working to transport by rail millions of tons of grain, currently blocked in Ukraine’s sea ports by the Russia military, a top US defense official said Thursday.

May 28 (Reuters) - Ukraine has started receiving Harpoon anti-ship missiles from Denmark and self-propelled howitzers from the United States, Ukrainian Defence Minister Oleksiy Reznikov said on Saturday, saying the arms would bolster forces fighting Russia's invasion.
Ukrainian forces have been requesting Harpoons as they seek to break the blockade of Odesa’s port and the ongoing harassment from sea-based missiles, USNI News understands.
Not that easy. The rail is different in Ukraine than in Poland. You can't just continue with a rail - you need facility to unload the train, and load it onto different train that work on rail tracks in EU
 

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One example of unintended consequences / side effects of warfare.
Oh, it was definitely intended. Why do you think the timing of the attack and the direction focused in the south?
1. Longer time period for war activities - they aren't going to fight in winter
2. Cut off Ukraine from the sea trade/support (at minimum Russia will get land access to Crimea, although if they secure that prior to July they might go to Odessa to cut off Ukraine from the sea completely)
3. Hold the grain hostage knowing the sea is only path for it to be shipped effectively
 
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