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Russia is plotting to stage acts of provocation to create a pretext to invade Ukraine, a US official has said.
A Pentagon spokesman said Russian operatives were planning a "false-flag" operation, to allow Moscow to accuse Ukraine of preparing an attack.
 

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Another clickbait title

It's been publicly known they were there for quite some time. I guess if the journalist says they just learned about they can make a title as if it just happened

Journalism is borderline misinformation nowadays
 

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No argument here. I found it interesting that "Neither the government nor the Canadian Forces would officially confirm the special forces presence in Ukraine when contacted by Global News".
Which begs the question where does one go to source actually news instead of clickbait and opinion pieces? I find periodicals and peer reviewed journals offer some substance when looking for content but not when it comes to current events.
 

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No argument here. I found it interesting that "Neither the government nor the Canadian Forces would officially confirm the special forces presence in Ukraine when contacted by Global News".
Which begs the question where does one go to source actually news instead of clickbait and opinion pieces? I find periodicals and peer reviewed journals offer some substance when looking for content but not when it comes to current events.
Try the Government of Canada website: Operation UNIFIER - Canada.ca

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September 2020Canadian Special Operations Forces Command (CANSOFCOM) personnel joined Joint Task Force Ukraine in support of existing training development and capacity building efforts.

They have a list of all current operations: Current operations list - Canada.ca
 

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Which begs the question where does one go to source actually news instead of clickbait and opinion pieces? I find periodicals and peer reviewed journals offer some substance when looking for content but not when it comes to current events.
Real news is on twitter unfortunately and believe it or not

You'd be surprised what we get from twitter before it comes down official channels nowadays

Journalists even write entire articles based on a few tweets
 

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Discussion Starter · #67 · (Edited)
I registered a Twitter handle in 2008 shortly after it first started. Jack Dorsey sent the first Twitter message "Jack" in testing on March 2006.

Twitter is live in real time and events are easily verified when witnessed and confirmed by many Twitter users.

I read stuff on Twitter long before it is carried on CNN or other news organizations.

They monitor it as well, but have to try to verify everything which takes time.

Basically, you have to consider the source of tweets, but police and most other government agencies monitor Twiitter for information.
 

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I don't support Canadian troops in Ukraine. It isn't our business what Russia does unless it attacks a NATO country.

There is nothing we could do about a Russian invasion in Ukraine anyways. All we are doing is putting our troops in harms way.
 

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I don't support Canadian troops in Ukraine. It isn't our business what Russia does unless it attacks a NATO country.

There is nothing we could do about a Russian invasion in Ukraine anyways. All we are doing is putting our troops in harms way.
Their purpose is to be prepared to evacuate diplomats and certain specified civilians if required

That's a long standing Canadian military function and won't change whether you like it or not
 

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Sec Gen Stoltenberg says #NATO has information confirming US claims of a "significant Russian presence of intelligence officers or operatives inside Ukraine." He says it's "absolutely possible" they're planning "incidents, accidents, false flag operations."

 

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Their purpose is to be prepared to evacuate diplomats and certain specified civilians if required

That's a long standing Canadian military function and won't change whether you like it or not
The diplomats should be evacuated before there is armed conflict, lest we end up with another Afghanistan scenario.
 

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There has been Canadian presence in Lithuania, Romania, Poland?, black sea etc since the 2014 invasion. Operation speed bump as we call it (ie deterrence/pressence)

Canadians have been publicly training in Ukraine. This announcement was for a different purpose in case they have to evacuate Ukraine. It's not out of our depth at all. We evacuated Americans from Iranian embassy in 1980. We train for NEO quite a bit

Most Canadians don't even know they even made a movie about it :LOL:
 

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British Royal Air Force planes flew around German airspace when they delivered anti-tank weaponry to Ukraine on Monday, flight-tracking data from FlightRadar24 showed.
In recent weeks, Ukraine has called on the likes of the US, UK, and Germany to provide military aid to help counter the buildup of Russian troops at its border. Ukraine and the US have long warned of an imminent Russian invasion.
Ben Wallace, the UK defense minister, told Parliament on Monday that Britain was sending "light, anti-armor, defensive weapon systems" to Ukraine to use only in self-defense in case of a Russian invasion.
The weapons were transported on RAF C-17 planes that flew to Ukraine by an unusually long route: through Danish instead of German airspace, as can be seen below.
The choice of route is notable given that Germany declined to send arms to Ukraine in December.
Germany has also blocked Ukraine from receiving NATO shipments of rifles and anti-drone weaponry sourced from the US and Lithuania in recent months, the Ukrainian news outlet ZN reported.
The Daily Mail reported that Germany denied the C-17s permission to use its airspace.
But a spokesperson for the UK Ministry of Defence told Insider: "Germany has not denied access to its airspace as the UK did not submit a request. There has been no dispute between the UK and Germany on this issue."
And a spokesperson for the German defense ministry told Bild, "There had been no application from the British for the flights."
The C-17s were therefore "not prohibited" from using German airspace, the spokesperson said, Bild reported.

The planes also avoided German airspace on their return flights to RAF Brize Norton, FlightRadar24 data showed.
 

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I used to plan and coordinate military flights in Europe including during the Crimea crisis

I don't see anything unusual there. Mission planners would have chosen the route and there are many factors that we don't know. Flying over the ocean like that is just a much simpler route than checking in with all the ATC over Europe, filing more clearances etc. We never flew a straight line anywhere in Europe

European airspace is still based on the old borders including the east/west German border. They were talking about updating it to reflect the EU because it's overly convoluted. You can fly much straighter in Canada for example. In Europe the military is basically training in the same airspace as airliners whereas in Canada it's much more separated

Diplomatic clearances are mostly a nuisance in Europe. We would just fly around Switzerland because in airplane terms it's barely different. For the military to fly to the middle east you might literally fly the long way around the world because 1 country ignored a diplomatic clearance. Sometimes that call is made en route

Germany was always very by the rules with government stuff. There's probably more foreign military stationed in Germany than Canadian military in Canada
 

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Navy Sends A Message By Publicizing Guided Missile Submarine's Mediterranean Presence
The U.S. Navy’s Sixth Fleet has offered an unusual public disclosure of the location of USS Georgia (SSGN 729), one of four of the service’s converted Ohio class nuclear-powered guided-missile submarines, or SSGNs, as it conducted a brief stop near the island of Cyprus. These rare disclosures tend to occur at times of heightened international tensions. With the situation in Ukraine quickly approaching an outright crisis, it’s likely that the Navy intended for this glimpse at Georgia to serve as a signal to both allies and Russia that the United States has a highly capable presence in the region that can reach out and strike over long distances with little risk to itself.

Beyond anything else, these submarines' ability to act as invisible arsenal ships, with the ability to haul up to 154 Tomahawk missiles — roughly just over two-thirds of that number are usually carried by most estimates, is what makes them so feared. Each one of those missiles can travel 1,000 miles to its intended target, giving the SSGN a massive standoff attack capability.

In other words, draw a 1000 mile radius circle around an SSGN. Most of the potential targets inside that circle are put at risk when it is present. This means that it can hit targets in Crimea, Ukraine, and Russia with ease while cruising in the Eastern Mediterranean. And that little reminder is very likely what the Navy's little media push was all about.
 

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That is a seriously stupid article.

Russia has nuclear submarines within reach of the east and west coasts of the US and they would respond in kind.
 
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