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Russia has placed troops to surround Ukraine on the border.

Is Putin planning to invade ? What will be the response from other countries ?

Will the US intervene on Ukraine's behalf ?

People are saying it is a very tenuous situation right now that the news media isn't covering.
 

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So the US is a toothless tiger ?
 

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Russia already annexed a chunk of the country, and nobody cares.

Europe needs Russian gas, or they'll freeze to death this winter.

I'd be shocked if Russia doesn't take over Ukraine, I'm not even sure shots will be fired.
 

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My question is not whether they could (they could) or whether US would stop it (they wouldn't).
My question is why would they do it? Other than perhaps small part up to the dam that threatens water supply to Crimea, cost/benefit of attacking Ukraine seems unfavorable,
 

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Putin is obsessed with NATO snuggling up to Russia's border. His interest is more to keep NATO away from Ukraine.

Complicating it is China's interest in Taiwan. If the US does nothing in Ukraine.....China may be emboldened.

I think the US is going to have to decide. Conflict and war or walk away and focus on home security.

Putin has a history of making moves when the world is distracted with an Olympics.
 

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A task force of up to 600 UK troops is ready to deploy in Ukraine amid fears Russia is poised to invade its neighbour.

Units from the SAS and Parachute Regiment have been warned they could be sent to the country within hours.

The preparation comes after defence chiefs and the head of MI6 advised No10 that Russian President Vladimir Putin represents a clear and present danger to Ukraine and the West.

Video footage that emerged appears to show Russian tanks, armoured vehicles and troops massing near Ukraine.

Now a British force – consisting of SAS members, the Special Reconnaissance Regiment, medics, engineers, signallers and up to 400 paratroopers from 16 Air Assault Brigade based in Aldershot, Hants – is being set up.
A source said: “The high readiness element of the brigade was told it may need to deploy at very short notice.


“Between 400 and 600 troops are ready. Their equipment is packed and they are ready to fly to Ukraine and either land or parachute in. They have trained for both eventualities.”
 

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President Emmanuel Macron told Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin on Monday that France is ready to defend the territorial integrity of Ukraine.

The warning comes after NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg cautioned Moscow against any aggression after "large and unusual concentrations of Russian forces" were spotted at Ukraine's border in recent weeks.

In a telephone conversation lasting for one hour and 45 minutes Macron expressed "our deep concern and our willingness to defend the territorial integrity of Ukraine," the French president's office said.
 

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New data from the 2021 Chicago Council Survey, conducted July 7-26, finds that Americans are more willing than ever to support Ukraine, including using US troops to defend it. For the first time since the question was included in 2014, half of Americans support the use of US troops if Russia were to invade the rest of Ukraine (50% favor, 48% oppose). This is a significant increase in support for US intervention since 2014, when only three in 10 Americans (30%) supported sending US troops to Ukraine.

This growing support has occurred across partisan lines. Today, a majority of Democrats (54%) support sending US troops to defend Ukraine, up from 39 percent in 2017. Over the same period, support has risen 10 percentage points among Republicans (51%, up from 41%), and eight percentage points among Independents (46%, up from 38%).
 

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In the past, Ukraine was largely unprepared for war. Today, however, its military is in a much stronger position and is making sure that any future hostilities have a high price for their adversary.
Ukraine's military was in a sorry state in 2014, when Russia seized Crimea and backed an invasion of eastern Ukraine.

By 2014, after more than two decades of peace, Ukraine's military had shrunk to just 140,000 troops — only 6,000 of whom were ready for combat. Additionally, much of its high-end equipment, including some of the newest gear produced by its domestic arms industry, was sold to foreign countries.
Despite the setbacks, Ukraine's military is much larger and much stronger today.

"There's quite a few improvements," Andrew Radin, a political scientist with the RAND Corporation think tank, told Insider.

Radin, who helped write recommendations on security-sector reform for the Ukrainian government, described Ukraine's current force as "a battle-hardened military, both in terms of volunteer personnel ... as well as quite a number of veterans who are still available as reservists."

Ukraine has made progress in adopting NATO standards and practices, and its forces — 255,000 active-duty personnel and 900,000 reservists — train regularly with the US and other NATO militaries.

Ukraine increased its defense budget to 4.1% of GDP in 2020, and much of that money has gone to rearming.

In addition to US-made Javelin anti-tank missiles, the US has supplied Ukraine with armored Humvees, inflatable boats, radios, counterbattery artillery systems, and multiple Island-class patrol boats.
 

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A winter invasion? During the winter Olympics in China?

Seems like a diversion for something. US is moving troops to east africa

Typically winter warfare is a bad idea
 

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Canada considers boosting military aid to Ukraine as Russia amasses troops at the border
Two sources with knowledge of the deliberations told The Globe and Mail that newly appointed Defence Minister Anita Anand is considering deploying hundreds of additional troops to support the Canadian soldiers already in Ukraine on a training mission. Other options being looked at include moving a warship into the Black Sea, or redeploying some of the CF-18 fighter jets currently based in Romania.

 

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I don't know why you'd move the CF-18's from Romania. It takes longer to get airborne than to fly across the border

Might have to update the mission if they don't already fly over Ukraine
 

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Moving chess pieces around the board as a show of force ?
 
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