I'm not talking welfare or UBI here. I mean people who are doing sex work to fund addictions, etc. Supports I meant were more along the lines of assisting with getting independent housing, training, addiction treatment, etc. Not financial assistance. Your whole diatribe about prima donnas not wanting to do certain jobs is not really relevant. Or are you trying to say that people shouldn't be picky about doing sex work? I'm honestly kind of baffled. People shouldn't be 'above' working in a call centre or a rub and tug?
why are we legalizing cannabis?
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If an issue garners votes isn't that democracy? If the issue was that divisive, it wouldn’t have been brought forward, or the sponsoring party would have lost. If we grant some freedoms, without alienating a large group, then I think it’s ok. Not pontificating, just asking.
a issue was put on a platform, and that party won. If it was deemed an issue by the rest of the parties, they would run on criminalizing it.
Well that's actually my point.
It was legalized for votes, not any "scientific" reason.
One of the problems of democracy is that it can be wrong (factually wrong), bad ideas, and most importantly it's logically inconsistent.
There is no principles or coherent philosophy in a mob.
Also it was chosen as a wedge issue, it is very divisive.
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I don’t think it was divisive. and I don’t seen it changing.
I don't see how you can not see how divisive an issue it is.
But I don't see it changing either, it's not a vote getting.
Some things, as wrong as they are, aren't going to get fixed.
Banning sexual or racial discrimination for instance, everyone knows it's wrong, nobody is going to ban it.
Prostitution is not a crime in Canada.
If you think it is, please link to the section of the Criminal code.
Because it wouldn't withstand a charter challenge. Everything around prostitution is illegal (living off proceeds, solicitation, etc.), which makes it defacto illegal. It is obviously not a well-functioning legal market, but a black market.
Cannabis legalization enjoyed 70% support. Would you be willing to let 30% of the population dictate what laws you need to live under? I can only imagine what fun policies could be dreamed up that have 70% opposition and 30% support.
46%/36%
Being indifferent isn't support.
Abacus Data | Canadians are ready for legal cannabis
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Six in ten (61%) ‘support’ (26% strongly/35% somewhat) the ‘legalization of marijuana for recreational use in Canada
we can all find stats to support our argument. This issue is a non-issue
we can all find stats to support our argument. This issue is a non-issue
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Now your turn.....find some data that says the opposite. Let’s keep this thread alive.
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Actually the stats are pretty significant.
That being said, the government should endeavour to "do the right thing".
Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's right.
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“Right” is often a matter of opinion. i Disagree with a lot of laws, but I try to obey them since the majority feels they are important.
Not in Canada.
I feel that the laws are generally legitimate because they've come to be in a process we've agreed to.
We haven't had a government elected by a majority of the population since Mulroney.
To suggest that a majority feels they're important isn't true.
But as long as the system is believed to be fair, the vast majority of us can agree to accept it.
That's the problem with corruption.
46%/36%
Being indifferent isn't support.
Abacus Data | Canadians are ready for legal cannabis
7 in 10 Canadians support marijuana legalization: Nanos poll
Nearly 70 per cent of Canadians are in favour of marijuana legalization, according to a new Nanos survey.
www.ctvnews.ca
That's kind of your job to convince the population it is a bad policy. It has not been a resounding success (mostly due to government bungling of legalized distribution) but legal procurement of marijuana is up front 10% to 30%. It will take time for people to move over to legal distribution. Regular usage has risen only slightly, and not at all among young adults.
The sky did not fall chicken little.
Should we ban pork because our Jewish and Muslim minorities disapprove? After all, bacon is harmful to your health.
Bacon isn't harmful to your health.
Should we ban tofu since soy consumption is harmful to your health?
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More people die every year from being attacked by swarms of army ants than die from marijuana use.
More people suffer brain damage from cellphone use every year than from marijuana use.
More people get severely ill every year from wearing a pink bikini than from marijuana use.
So if you aren't overtaken by a swarm of army ants while wearing a pink bikini and talking on your cellphone..........you should be okay with a bit of the bud.
More people suffer brain damage from cellphone use every year than from marijuana use.
More people get severely ill every year from wearing a pink bikini than from marijuana use.
So if you aren't overtaken by a swarm of army ants while wearing a pink bikini and talking on your cellphone..........you should be okay with a bit of the bud.
No, that would be way too popular! You have to pick the minority position and impose it on the rest of society.
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