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It is probably a good idea to move from the election thread to the current situation.

The Trump team is having difficulty combining the "drain the swamp" rhetoric with appointing competent people to cabinet.

Trump had a long list of policies, but they weren't very detailed. We could discuss them here as they come up.
 

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Some of Trump's major policy positions.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-09/what-has-donald-trump-promised-to-do/8009846 and other sources.

Immigration

Ban all Muslims from entering the United States, although he said he would make an exception for London's new Muslim mayor, Sadiq Khan.
Immediately suspend immigration from "any nation that has been compromised by terrorism" until proven vetting mechanisms have been put in place.
Build a wall along the US-Mexico border and make Mexico pay for it.
Stop illegal immigration.
Triple the number of Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers.
Deport an estimated 11 million unauthorised Mexican immigrants and their children — even if they were born in the United States starting with those who have committed serious crimes.

Trade

Withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement and "walk away" from it if the US does not get what it wants.
Increase tariffs on Chinese imports to 45 per cent.
Restore trade sanctions on Cuba

Law and order

End crime: "The crime and violence … will soon, and I mean very soon, will come to an end".
Appoint new supreme court judges who "will be pro-life, they will have a conservative bent, they will be protecting the second amendment".
Stop the government dictating what types of firearms "good, honest people" are allowed to own.
Reduce gun violence by empowering law-abiding gun owners to defend themselves.
Appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary Clinton's emails, also threatening to jail her.

Health


Scrap the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare.
Allow the states to take back control of abortion laws. Says public funding of abortion providers is "an insult to people of conscience".
Punish doctors who carry out illegal abortions. At one point he also advocated punishing women who have illegal abortions, but he appeared to backtrack on that.
Fix America's mental health system, which he says will prevent many mass shootings.

Economy and jobs

Implement "reforms to add millions of new jobs".
Reduce the top tax bracket from 39.6 per cent to 33 per cent.
Cut the corporate tax rate from 35 per cent to 15 per cent.
Introduce "massive" tax cuts for working and middle-income Americans.
Allow families to deduct the average cost of childcare from their taxes, including stay-at-home parents.
Implement a $1 Trillion dollar budget to address infrastructure needs.
Approve coal production, oil drilling in national reserves, and oil pipelines.
Fix Social Security.
A one time lower tax rate on repatriated corporate funds.

Defence and national security

Try and improve the relationship with Russia: "If Russia and the United States got on well and went after ISIS, that would be good".
Submit a new budget to rebuild America's "depleted military".
Make countries that benefit from America's defence force cover some of the cost.
Pursue "aggressive joint and coalition military operations to crush and destroy ISIS".
Work with other countries to cut off funding to ISIS.
Initiate cyberwarfare to disrupt and disable ISIS propaganda and recruiting.
Order an immediate review of all US cyber vulnerabilities.
Revamp care and benefits for military veterans.

Nuclear weapons

Speak to North Korea to try and stop their nuclear program, which would be a major shift in US policy towards the isolated nation.
Scrap the Iranian nuclear deal.
May not oppose South Korea and Japan gaining nuclear weapons.

Climate change

Renegotiate America's role in the UN global climate accord struck in Paris last year.

Education

Scrap the Common Core program, which dictates what students should learn in each grade. He says curriculum decisions and standards should be made at a local level.

Politics

Implement term limits and ban politicians from lobbying government after leaving office.
 

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Travel bans on Muslims is going to be a difficult one. How do they identify them?

How about Calgary's mayor Naheed Nenshi ? Will he be banned from entering the USA?

I presume that the USA will no longer receive any visitors at all from Saudi Arabia, Oman, Indonesia, Qatar, UAE... that's going to be an awfully big hit to business and economic ties, as the USA has massive business interests within those countries.

The gulf states also have huge investments in the USA. I doubt they will want to continue doing that, if it's impossible for them to set foot on US soil.
 

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How about Calgary's mayor Naheed Nenshi ? Will he be banned from entering the USA?
Those will be special cases

The gulf states also have huge investments in the USA. I doubt they will want to continue doing that, if it's impossible for them to set foot on US soil.
Don't doubt :) It's all about money.... in not US, where they will be investing ?! in Canada?! ... and again, there will be special cases.
P.S> Ban on Muslims = excellent policy!
 

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Tell me, who out there is willing to buy real estate in a country, or own a business, when they are banned from entering the country to visit their property, or they can't visit to meet with the Board of Directors, Management, or take any actions to court in lawsuits related to their business interests.

If Trump is serious about banning Muslims, then the USA will lose billions of $ of investments and the money will flee to wealth centers like Switzerland, Hong Kong, Singapore.
 

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Some of Trump's major policy positions.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-09/what-has-donald-trump-promised-to-do/8009846 and other sources.Education


notice, though, that this platform dates from pre-election campaign days.

whether & how donald trump will set out to implement each individual article after inauguration remains to be seen.


articles 48 & 49 of the original declaration last summer are chilling. The US is to become "the strongest on earth" militarily, with "vast superiority over any other nation or group of nations in the world."

48. Dramatically increase Pentagon budget: "Quite simply, the Republican Party is committed to rebuilding the U.S. military into the strongest on earth, with vast superiority over any other nation or group of nations in the world."

49. Cancel Iran nuclear treaty and expand nuclear arsenal: "We should abandon arms control treaties that benefit our adversaries without improving our national security. We must fund, develop, and deploy a multi-layered missile defense system. We must modernize nuclear weapons and their delivery platforms."


trump's White House plans to finesse regressive steps that could be difficult to implement nationally - such as gun control, abortion rights & enforcement of christianity as the sole official religion - by handing jurisdiction in these matters back to the individual states.

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I've read somewhere that "multi billionaires don't have nationality" :). Again, there will be special cases and special visas. Do you really thimk that some Saudi billionaire will give a **** if Syrians or Iraqis will be banned?!
billions of $ of investments and the money will flee to wealth centers like Switzerland, Hong Kong, Singapore.
and do you think that they are still not invested in places where they can profitably invest?!
 

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two weeks ago the trump supporters were baying after hillary clinton because she was thought to be too pro-saudi, among other blemishes.

fast forward & now the trump supporters cannot welcome saudi money eagerly enough, with special visas for all

a terrorist tycoon from a troubled state only has to be rich to be america's friend, it seems

wait, wasn't that what they were saying about hillary?


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among the 50 promises in the trump election campaign platform was the provision that all public schoolchildren must recite the christian lord's prayer aloud, in unison, every school morning

no other religion is to be allowed

do you suppose it was mike pence had a hand in that


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Ban on Muslims = excellent policy!
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
 

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Tell me, who out there is willing to buy real estate in a country, or own a business, when they are banned from entering the country to visit their property, or they can't visit to meet with the Board of Directors, Management, or take any actions to court in lawsuits related to their business interests.

If Trump is serious about banning Muslims, then the USA will lose billions of $ of investments and the money will flee to wealth centers like Switzerland, Hong Kong, Singapore.

I would not buy real estate or travel in some of he European countries where the Moslems are trying to take over. I know people that have stopped going to Europe due to the problems Europe is having with the Moslems. Even locals in certain areas in Europe are leaving.

Switzerland I always thought was one of the best places to store money, gold & silver the uncertainty over the religious war in Europe that is brewing I think will scare money out of Switzerland.

For Switzerland to remain a wealth center they will have to keep their Moslem population very low just the thought of having Switzerland surrounded by countries that in the future will have Sharia law will scare money out of Switzerland.

I think banning all religions that promote war with none believers should be banned.
 

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I think everyone is taking things to far on both sides here. The liberal policy is to destroy a country willingly as in Europe just to say they are tolerant. Of course denouncing and even censoring everything that they don't agree with. Liberals upset with election loss are going for censorship.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/technology/google-will-ban-websites-that-host-fake-news-from-using-its-ad-service.html?_r=0

Luckily people had something other then CNN to look at or we would be happily walking into WW 3 and tons muslims would be shipped into the US.

Hopefully Trump will do much of what he says except tone down the crazy stuff. I said before a good start would be Ron Paul for secretary of state.
 

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I would kind of like to know how Trump planned to deal with Iran.

He has pledged to scrap the Obama deal, and has said Iran won't get nuclear weapons.

Those are the ends of the rope. How does he propose to deal with Iran restarting their nuclear program, especially in light of Iran - China signing a military pact of sorts ?

I also wonder what he plans to do about North Korea who already have a nuclear weapon and are now in the process of developing missile capabilities to deliver it.

Trump hasn't said much about these kinds of issues. He prefers to deal with the knee jerk stuff.
 

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He needs Russia and China to control these countries. The US can help but they are not in the position to do much on these countries and need to show Russia and China it is their best interests to keep them under control.
 

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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Excellent quote! I agree....first Muslims came for Jews, then for Christians, then for all infidels.... So ban them that they won't be able to come for us!!!

I know people that have stopped going to Europe due to the problems Europe is having with the Moslems.
I canceled out trip to Budapesht/Vienna because of it
 

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Before election I wasn't on any side... now it believe that Americans did a right choice

Was watching in gym CNN, CTV etc.... All those democrats and liberals barking and barking.... Trump got elected only 1 week ago ... what do they want from him?!
Now is a new story with Jared Kushner top security clearance... they say that he's too young for this :) or really ?! how old he should be?!
Than they tell that he doesn't have government job experience....but this is very good, better Jared that some bureaucrat/functioner with tens of years of government job. He's son-in-law of Trump..... so what ?! Hillary is a wife of previous POTUS :)
On other hand, if Trump would dump Jared, all left will be yelling that he's antisemitic :)
 
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