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So to avoid this authoritarian act , I should fly via Calgary after vacation in Caribbean?! What a stupidity!
I agree, Trudeau even does a half-**** job of being an authoritarian.
Can't he go surfing in Tofino or something, and let Freeland run the country again?
 

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Trudeau ‘frustrated’ Ford continues to call on Ottawa for more border restrictions without providing specific requests

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On Wednesday, Ford sent another letter to Trudeau saying he is “disappointed” that no response has been provided to Ontario’s requests to tighten measures at the border to reduce COVID-19 variants from coming into the province.

“To date, there has been no action on any of these requests and no indication that anything is coming,” Ford wrote.

However, Trudeau noted that he spoke with Ford and other premiers two weeks ago about implementing more specific limitations at the border but never received details from Ontario about who to apply those restrictions to.

“...Whether it's international students, whether it's temporary foreign workers, whether it's essential workers, whether it's compassionate workers, we said let's work together and we will tighten those numbers,” Trudeau said.

“They never told us. We started working with them the very next day, they still haven't said what categories they want to restrict, how they want to reduce international arrivals,” he added.

After Ford’s initial letter in April, two subsequent letters were sent last month by Deputy Premier and Health Minister Christine Elliott and Solicitor General Sylvia Jones.

The letters pointed out three requests for enhanced measures at the border, including:

  • reducing incoming international flights to lessen the spread of COVID-19 variants
  • mandatory PCR testing for all domestic air travellers entering Ontario
  • mandatory three-day hotel quarantine at federally-approved hotels for those that come into the country at the land border
As case counts continued to rise in Ontario last month amid the third wave, Ford took action and announced that the province would prohibit non-essential, interprovincial travel by setting up checkpoints at its land borders with Quebec and Manitoba. ...
... mrMatt, here's your opportunity to assist Ford and tell Trudeau exactly what's required. Shouldn't be too hard based on the above newspiece bullet-points.
 

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Conservatives want to open everything up and close everything down.....at the same time....lol
 

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Trudeau ‘frustrated’ Ford continues to call on Ottawa for more border restrictions without providing specific requests

... mrMatt, here's your opportunity to assist Ford and tell Trudeau exactly what's required. Shouldn't be too hard based on the above newspiece bullet-points.
Trudeau won't do that, he cares more about the jet setting travellers who'll vote for him than the Ford voters who won't.
It's in his political interest to not do anything Ford tells him to.
 

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Quite frankly Doug Ford is even dumber than Trudeau when it comes to travel restrictions. It is hard to find a starting point to analysis this really incompetent and silly program. Kudos to the G&M for calling a spade a spade.
Unfortunately , it's true! Ford complaining to Trudeau that more than 1/3 coming to Ontario on private planes (and obviously not doing any quarantine ) and via Buffalo ("that became major Ontario airport").... So what Ford expects from Trudeau?! To buy Russian S400 and shot down private planes?! And practically everyone wo is coming back to Ontario are vaccinated!
 

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Why are tests required for fully-vaccinated Canadians? And quarantines? It is a waste of time and money. I plan to claim all extra costs on my taxes next year.
 

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Most COVID travel cases are due to domestic travel within Canada.

So block the Provincial borders and close all airports and train stations ?

I agree that non-Canadians should not be allowed into Canada by any venue.

But I doubt Trudeau has the legal authority to block citizens from returning.

He is doing all he can within his legal limits.

Perhaps he should create a COVID Measures Act to give himself the legal authority ?
 

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Our city just had a big outbreak associated with a funeral. The COVID is still spreading.
 

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He is doing all he can within his legal limits.

Perhaps he should create a COVID Measures Act to give himself the legal authority ?
He has the quarantine act, it's already in place, he's simply not enforcing it.
 

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Our city just had a big outbreak associated with a funeral. The COVID is still spreading.
I have to assume those that circumvented the restrictions for a funeral likely havent vaccinated?

My grandmother just passed we didn't have a service, at all. Really the weirdest thing.
 

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He has the quarantine act, it's already in place, he's simply not enforcing it.
not true I am one of those fully vaccinated snowbirds who just got out of quarantine for 17 days. The monitoring and surveillance was annoying to the extreme. The people who returned by land tested .25% positive. I suspect non of these cases were vaccinated snowbirds. The policy of testing and quarantine snowbirds who have been fully vaccinated probably ties up 70 or 80 nurses who could be better used in ICU s. The land crossing people had pretty well zero impact on the third wave. The air restrictions might be a different story. The hotel thing is just a stupid experiment. At home quarantine for 14 days with two tests and surveillance and monitoring would be more than sufficient. In respect to essential workers they should have been fully vaccinated at an early stage. People like Ford and Trudeau are wasting a lot of resources in subjecting fully vaccinated Canadians to this nonsense.
 

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Some relief from these questionable travel restrictions. The list of authoritative sources that have been saying their is no need to quarantine fully vaccinated people is lengthy. Israel, Australia, Europe and others have agreed and have lifted restrictions for such travellers. Finally Trudeau is leading from the rear although there is still two tests and a three day quarantine . Fortunately the insane hotel detention won't apply. The science and the data is there . We will need some common sense to get away from this control bunker mentality .
 

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Some relief from these questionable travel restrictions. The list of authoritative sources that have been saying their is no need to quarantine fully vaccinated people is lengthy. Israel, Australia, Europe and others have agreed and have lifted restrictions for such travellers. Finally Trudeau is leading from the rear although there is still two tests and a three day quarantine . Fortunately the insane hotel detention won't apply. The science and the data is there . We will need some common sense to get away from this control bunker mentality .
And another idiot, Dougie Ford, wasting taxpayer money by paying 680News to play anti-Trudeau ad to close the border! This is a country of idiots :)
 

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And another idiot, Dougie Ford, wasting taxpayer money by paying 680News to play anti-Trudeau ad to close the border! This is a country of idiots :)
Unfortunatey the politicians are reflecting the polls. The majority of Canadians want to close the border. It shows widespread ignorance on the protection offered by the vaccines especially the Mrna vaccines. They keep saying their policies follow the science when the reality is their policies are following the polls. Fully vaccinated people aren't the problem and its time that policies reflect that fact.
 

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Everything should be locked down tight until the virus is gone. That is the only way to get rid of it and we eventually are going to end up there anyways.
 

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Fully vaccinated people aren't the problem and its time that policies reflect that fact.

Apparently, they aren't the solution either. The first cruise ship vacation since 2020 has at least 2 infected passengers.

Everyone was vaccinated and tested before boarding.
 
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