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The extraordinary story of the Flash Crash trader

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Very interesting story from Bloomberg on Youtube: The Wild $50M Ride of the Flash Crash Trader (24 minute video)

In 2010, American stocks had a 'flash crash'. Regulators believed a home-based day trader Navinder Sarao played a role in the crash, though later studies found he probably didn't cause the crash. Anyway, his back-story is interesting. He came from a humble, working-class English neighbourhood and had an amazing knack for trading futures.

He worked at a futures trading firm for a while, then quit and became a day trader while living in his parent's house. He made several million dollars legitimately day trading, all from his upstairs bedroom. Then unfortunately he began using a technique which the regulator decided was illegal, and they prosecuted him. (I actually think this part was bad luck and a bit of scapegoating, since spoofing had only freshly been made illegal)

Here's a part I wanted to draw attention to ... because there is a big lesson here ...

He made ~ $70 million along the way, most of it legitimate business profit. He had a very unique skill and knew how to make money. But he was clueless about how to store capital. Tragically, he "invested" the money into various scams, and lost all of it! Something like $50 MILLION of legitimate business income, all lost, because he didn't know how to store or invest the money, and fell for various scams.

One might think that a very skilled trader should know that he should store his hard-earned money into diversified mutual funds or any standard stock or bond ETF.

But he didn't know. He had a very particular skill, and that's how he made money. This is similar to professional athletes and pop stars. My point is, these are different skills!

It's one thing to know your particular trade, skill, or business niche very well. But it's entirely another thing to keep that money and store capital.
 
#2 ·
Aside: the Bank of Nova Scotia has also recently been charged for spoofing crimes and wire fraud (same crimes as the guy above), and will have to pay $127 million in fines for manipulating prices of precious metals. Articles at CBC and notice from the regulator.

Lesson: to conduct crimes in securities, make sure you work under a large corporation or big bank. Do the same thing as a solitary operator, and your life will be ruined!

But do it at a bank and you can walk away with millions of $ in bonuses, while the bank's lawyers deal with the criminal charges. What a sweet deal!
 
#3 ·
Looks to me like a typical example of scapegoating a little guy and ignoring the big players who are really to blame. You see it after every financial crisis. See for example "The Big Short" movie where one of the main characters explains that the 2008 financial crisis was the collapse of a whole series of scams by big banks and mortgage companies and that in the end it will be blamed on poor people and immigrants.
 
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I agree Rusty. This poor guy was absolutely a scapegoat, plus an easier target for prosecution because he didn't have good lawyers. Kind of funny actually that they went all the way across the Atlantic, to a poor immigrant suburb to find a guy to prosecute, when in the USA, firms just down the street are doing all the same crimes!

Besides, spoofing wasn't even illegal until 2010 (this guy started doing it while it was still legal). Basically the new law got passed, and they immediately went looking for who to prosecute... ignored all of Wall Street, and found this socially maladjusted guy in a poor immigrant suburb of London living with his parents.

It's almost a joke!

Meanwhile, the professional traders (like those at Bank of Nova Scotia) continue to do the same practice to this day and the fines are just a slap on the wrist. What are the names of these criminal trades at Bank of Nova Scotia? And why isn't the US DOJ ruining their lives, the same way they tried to ruin Navinder's life?

For anyone who thinks markets are a level playing field, or that justice is dished out fair and equal.