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Texas lifted all restrictions when less than 40% got even 1st dose and their stats greatly approved.
I personally don't know anyone 18+ in GTA who wasn't able to get vaccine. But I know a lot of people who just doesn't want to be vaccinated ... maybe this is the reason 3K new cases/day?
I know some who don't want to be vaccinated, but I also know many who can't get a shot yet.

It's important to note that Texas is culturally different, and it matters which 40% got the shot.


Also it takes 2-3 weeks for the vaccine to become effective, many people are still in that window.
 

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Texas lifted all restrictions when less than 40% got even 1st dose and their stats greatly approved.
I personally don't know anyone 18+ in GTA who wasn't able to get vaccine. But I know a lot of people who just doesn't want to be vaccinated ... maybe this is the reason 3K new cases/day?
I was unable to book one until this week.
 

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I was unable to book one until this week.
Yeah, just because they don't know anyone who can't get a shot doesnt' mean there isnt' anyone who can't get one.

Absence of data is not data of absence.

ie just because there is no data on something doesn't mean that is evidence (data) that there is nothing.
 

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I know some who don't want to be vaccinated, but I also know many who can't get a shot yet.

It's important to note that Texas is culturally different, and it matters which 40% got the shot.


Also it takes 2-3 weeks for the vaccine to become effective, many people are still in that window.
not some much culturally. A fair number of experts figure 30% of Texans had covid and they have a fairly strong immunity. 40 % fully vaccinated plus the other 30% gets to a significant level.
 

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I was unable to book one until this week.
Apparently you don't live in hot zone..... In any case, you got it this week! I don't see any reason lockdowns aren't lifted on Monday...
Just logically, if we got vaccine 2-3 weeks ago and my cousin family too, why we cannot visit them as per stay-at-home order?!
 

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not some much culturally. A fair number of experts figure 30% of Texans had covid and they have a fairly strong immunity. 40 % fully vaccinated plus the other 30% gets to a significant level.
And in Ontario hot zones 60%+ got vaccinated plus 10%+ had Covid already, so we're at around 70%
 

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Apparently you don't live in hot zone..... In any case, you got it this week! I don't see any reason lockdowns aren't lifted on Monday...
Just logically, if we got vaccine 2-3 weeks ago and my cousin family too, why we cannot visit them as per stay-at-home order?!
I do live in a hot zone. There were no open appointments in Peel for my particular criteria (18+).

I don't have an appointment until May 20, which means it is early June before I have any protection from infection.

gibor, I don't care about your ranting and raving. By all means, carry on. I just will pay it no heed.
 

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I do live in a hot zone. There were no open appointments in Peel for my particular criteria (18+).

I don't have an appointment until May 20, which means it is early June before I have any protection from infection.

gibor, I don't care about your ranting and raving. By all means, carry on. I just will pay it no heed.
So, maybe you have a problem with web :) ... My 25 y.o. son got Pfizer this Thu, my cousin 19 y.o. got it last week, my daughter is getting it this Sunday (she could've get earlier, but i told her to wait a bit as she had Covid), I got my Apr 19 ....or maybe you younger than 18 that you weren't able to book earlier?!

In any case, we never followed stupid government orders and not going to follow it now
 

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To be fair, I haven't been trying very hard to get a vaccination until it was reduced to 18+ in hotzones. Regardless, we'll let the grownups who understand public health advise what should be done, and your boy Doug will make the decisions.
 

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not some much culturally. A fair number of experts figure 30% of Texans had covid and they have a fairly strong immunity. 40 % fully vaccinated plus the other 30% gets to a significant level.
I should point out the 40% in Texas is basically a 2 shot dose. The 2 shot dose is much better than a one shot dose. The Houston Methodist study makes that abundantly clear,. Some of the comparisons in Canada are talking a single dose and a fair bit of that is Astrezenca.
 

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Just to clarify, people are still dying of heart disease. Even more in 2020 than in previous years.

View attachment 21648
Canada is doing ok compare with USA, Mexico, major Europe at this moment.
Let's see calm down.
(edited--- removed ? - I'm checking the data more carefully.)

The stresses ( fear, anger etc.) are consuming a lot of oxygen + disrupts the immune system. Make sure find some own way to manage well the stresses.

580,064 - 345,323= 234,741 ( USA covid death Jan - May 7 2021 ? )

Jan.9 2021 - 152.86, Feb 7 - 102.78, April 10 - 33.14, May 2 - 45.57 (Canada's daily death)
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Country : BRA~GBR~ZAF~CAN~ISR~IND~USA~MEX
& Europe data:
( data record: May 7 2021)
Total deaths:
21653

Population:
21654


Total deaths per 1M:
21655
 

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To be fair, I haven't been trying very hard to get a vaccination until it was reduced to 18+ in hotzones. Regardless, we'll let the grownups who understand public health advise what should be done, and your boy Doug will make the decisions.
So, you should've try harder if you wanted to get one :) My point was that everyone who wanted - got it
"public health " may advise, but we gonna do what we prefer .... for example, they are giving every year advise to get flu shot, we never got any and never got flu in 22 years we live here.
Doug failed his voters (I can see it on social media), on the other hand, what choice we had?! Hysterical lunatic Andrea Horwart from socialist party?!
 

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So, you should've try harder if you wanted to get one :) My point was that everyone who wanted - got it
"public health " may advise, but we gonna do what we prefer .... for example, they are giving every year advise to get flu shot, we never got any and never got flu in 22 years we live here.
Doug failed his voters (I can see it on social media), on the other hand, what choice we had?! Hysterical lunatic Andrea Horwart from socialist party?!
I wasn't eligible. I was under 40 with no health problems and not essential worker. I'm not sure how your kids got vaccinated. Pop up clinic was my only option to get vaccinated, and I work. I can't drop everything to chase a vaccine dose when I was going to get one anyway shortly.

If you want to gamble with your life and the life of your family and friends, go ahead and ignore the public health advice. I will chin up and not act like a child throwing a tantrum and get vaccinated and deal with a few more weeks of inconvenience.
 

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I wasn't eligible. I was under 40 with no health problems and not essential worker. I'm not sure how your kids got vaccinated. Pop up clinic was my only option to get vaccinated, and I work. I can't drop everything to chase a vaccine dose when I was going to get one anyway shortly.

If you want to gamble with your life and the life of your family and friends, go ahead and ignore the public health advice. I will chin up and not act like a child throwing a tantrum and get vaccinated and deal with a few more weeks of inconvenience.
... only difference is such hypocrites are okay with putting others (non-related) at risk.

The "mystery" of a"never-had-a-flu-in-my-life" tells me these are the "silent carriers" aka "asymptotic infectors".
 

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I wasn't eligible. I was under 40 with no health problems and not essential worker. I'm not sure how your kids got vaccinated. Pop up clinic was my only option to get vaccinated, and I work. I can't drop everything to chase a vaccine dose when I was going to get one anyway shortly.

If you want to gamble with your life and the life of your family and friends, go ahead and ignore the public health advice. I will chin up and not act like a child throwing a tantrum and get vaccinated and deal with a few more weeks of inconvenience.
They just googled by themselves and booked appointments (and they are below 25 and also work). And they told me that there were a plenty of spots available.
If you can't drop everything to chase a vaccine, you gamble with your life more than us!
Generally, whole life is a gamble.... Driving on our roads is even a bigger gamble.
Freq "public health advice" doesn't make any sense and usually it's politically driven (just look at Texas and Cali).
Esp now, explain me while we cannot drive and visit our family (as per "public health advice") as all of us got vaccines?!
 

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I strongly recommend people do a little research on all the long, long list of documented crimes Pfizer has committed over the years. Pfizer has been fined in the past for bribing doctors. Something does not seam right when the poliTICKS has granted them immunity with their experimental drugs. Moderna has never made a vaccine they are into Gene therapy. Gates who is on record on Ted talk video saying if they do a good job with the vaccines they can reduce the population by 10 - 15%. The Ted talk is regards to lowering C02.

By declaring an emergency drug companies can bypass testing. No deaths by flu, High number of false positive test should smell funny to everyone.

Melinda Gates is on video sitting next to Gates saying they invest in politics, tech, media & vaccines.

The media is scaring everyone to death while promoting the vaccine, Gates has a monopoly on world health.

When I do the math & add everything up I do not trust the drug pushers.

Trust in your own thinking & math not the government & media.
 

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I trust the doctors and nurses who work in the ICU units and tell people what they are experiencing every single day.

No politics involved. Just them telling us......what is going on behind the scenes in the hospitals.

Have you seen what a COVID destoyed lung looks like ? Have you seen the COVID X-rays ?

From what I have read.....COVID is a terrible way to die.

I really don't need any more than that to get a vaccination.
 

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I m going to get vaccinated too.
Not signing up on monday though. Will wait until the 2nd dose can be given within 28 days.
I will trust scientists who developed the vaccine and will not use it off-label based on politics.

Am hopeful that decision to follow the manufacturer specification on the use of the vaccine will come soon seeing there is enough doses already to start vaccinating 12 year olds.
 
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