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and because of that type of behavior, everyone you mentioned has a better chance of being healthy and alive for all those thanksgiving dinners the future will offer. A very cheap price to pay.
We had Thanksgiving dinner with about 10 people yesterday. We refuse to live in isolation for a virus that has a survival rate similar or less than the flu for healthy people under 60.
 

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We had Thanksgiving dinner with about 10 people yesterday. We refuse to live in isolation for a virus that has a survival rate similar or less than the flu for healthy people under 60.
30% of the total hospitalised cases are below 60 and 40% of the total cases admitted to ICU are below 60, all taking places at the hospital that other people need.
 

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In these cases the restaurants believe they don't have much choice. If they are not on the platform their customers get irritated and buy from the competitor. I suspect the restaurant losing money hopes that this "skip the dishes" customer enjoys the food so much that they come into the restaurant some other time, where maybe the owner can make a profit.

This situation of losing money is not specific to skip the dishes. The restaurant would also prefer you not use your cash back credit card that might cost them up to 7% of the revenue to VISA, as well. Again, they hope to not annoy the customer and perhaps at some point in the future they can figure out a way to pay these exorbitant amounts and still make a profit.

Knowing these things, if one truly wants to help the restaurant then one should be aware of these things and avoid using them. Assuming the restaurant owner controls all this stuff is incorrect. The people spending the money are the only ones with that type of control.
Well I'm not in the restaurant business because it's too hard.
Most restaurants (and new businesses) fail in a few years. It is their job to ensure they're profitable.

The local pizza place only sells individual slices at certain times on certain days, the corner Chinese place is pickup only. It's their job to ensure that what they offer makes sense for their business.
If they're constantly making bad business decisions, they shouldn't be running the business that way. Better they switch to something else, and let sustainable businesses take over, rather than win the race to the bottom.
 

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30% of the total hospitalised cases are below 60 and 40% of the total cases admitted to ICU are below 60, all taking places at the hospital that other people need.
Those people over 60 who slashed resident positions and health care spending, resulting in the capacity shortages we have now?
Maybe they should have been thinking of who was going to take care of them when they started killing the training pipeline decades ago.
 

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Well I'm not in the restaurant business because it's too hard.
Most restaurants (and new businesses) fail in a few years. It is their job to ensure they're profitable.

The local pizza place only sells individual slices at certain times on certain days, the corner Chinese place is pickup only. It's their job to ensure that what they offer makes sense for their business.
If they're constantly making bad business decisions, they shouldn't be running the business that way. Better they switch to something else, and let sustainable businesses take over, rather than win the race to the bottom.
Sure, but this thread got started by someone talking about helping out Restaurants and all I wanted to point out is that one can help them a lot better by calling them directly to see if they would prefer another method of delivery then using these delivery apps that are incredibly costly to the businesses.
 

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Sure, but this thread got started by someone talking about helping out Restaurants and all I wanted to point out is that one can help them a lot better by calling them directly to see if they would prefer another method of delivery then using these delivery apps that are incredibly costly to the businesses.
Well I've really got a hunger for some meat, and the local BBQ place is awesome.
They've got the classic 1970/80's decor, with those same dated plastic water glasses.

They don't deal with all those apps and stuff. Just good food. Even when I ate in, their carry out was insane.

I might pick that up for dinner later this week.
 

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No, older and vulnerable people can isolate. There is no need to quarantine healthy low risk people.
Fair enough. Just as long as you are willing to put a mask over your faces when you go into establishments where both ages are forced to go, like retail stores and many other buildings, you can eat dinner with anyone you want, as far as I am concerned.
 

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Fair enough. Just as long as you are willing to put a mask over your faces when you go into establishments where both ages are forced to go, like retail stores and many other buildings, you can eat dinner with anyone you want, as far as I am concerned.
Yes, I wear a mask when it's required.
 

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I've just bought a takeout from a restaurant as dining in is prohibited again in my city.

It's a very fancy restaurant, the kind of restaurant you pay more than $100 for two people.

The online takeout schedule was every 15 minutes. When I arrived, I was surprised to notice there were about 7 other cars waiting for their takeout and we all got served in 5 minutes as other cars came by for their takeout.

The COVID situation may be very hard for most restaurants, but from my experience of that specific restaurant, they may actually make even more money, no? Since we takeout, there's no limit of capacity for the restaurant. Its limit is now only driven by its ability to deliver.

Any thoughts?
It would be an exception to make more money with take out. They are still paying overheads such as rent and utilities. Wait staff are about the only savings and maybe a reduction in kitchen staff (depending on the set up) Even with busy take out, they are probably not turning around as many tables (if a car is equal to a table). I will guess that you went in at a busy time, it will probably be dead. People wait for a table reservation if the place is good enough, they will not wait for take out into the evening. There are increase costs for the extra packaging a pre cautions for COVID. I was calculating the extra cost for the fancy little packaging and it added few dollars to my order.

Alcohol, drinks and desserts are the highest margin and bring in most of the profit. These are for the most part being passed over. Getting take out will help pay the overheads, but that's about it. That also assumes the restaurant has figured out how to redo their menus to reduce waste.

You are right. Only a few exceptions will be able to get through it.

Me and my spouse were thinking of making "donations" to local places we use to go regularly. We were thinking that if people can continue encouraging their favorite local places, hopefully they wouldn't disappear due to this COVID situation.
We frequent our favorite places often for take out. We try to leave a huge tip, give them cash (if they will take it) and tell give them orders to try and reduce all the packaging and trays.

Look at what they save by keeping the dining areas closed, in not having waiters, waitresses, bus boys, cleaners, etc.
I should think if they sell as many meals they make the same money or more.
Definitely not, as I said above the wait staff are reduced but you still have cleaning, kitchen staff and at least one person in the front. The orders are smaller (no booze, drinks or desserts), they are mostly likely having less customer in the course of the day, and additional packaging expenses.

Sure, but this thread got started by someone talking about helping out Restaurants and all I wanted to point out is that one can help them a lot better by calling them directly to see if they would prefer another method of delivery then using these delivery apps that are incredibly costly to the businesses.
I always call and ask how they would like to take our order. Never have we had them ask us to use Skip or one of the other delivery places.
 

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It was surprising pre-COVID how busy restaurants were on a typical Friday or Saturday night. They were all jam packed.

It didn't seem to matter how many new restaurants opened, but mostly it was big chains like East Side Marios or Montanas or similar.

The restaurants big enough have people wait in the "bar area" until a table becomes available or for pickup. (I delivered for ESM for a couple of months)

A party of six........a couple drinks each while waiting and a couple more while dining. The bill tally adds up in a hurry.

I haven't been in a bar for years but they tell me they pay $7 a beer in some places. I remember paying $0.35 cents for a glass of draft beer.

When this COVID is over we gotta get out more. I am still living in the 1970s price era.......LOL.
 

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Dinner and a movie has been replaced with Takeout and Netflix.

Watched some hilarious Youtube videos of a guy who walked around a mall talking to people in that "movie trailer" voice.

It reminded me of how long it has been since I heard that in a theatre.

I wish Netflix and Amazon Prime did a similar thing to preview movies. It would feel more like an evening "out".

 

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I agree with @sags Why would I buy liquor from the restaurant for takeout when I can just go to the liquor store? My only reason would be to encourage the restaurant. Or maybe the restaurant has a private import? But for smaller restaurants, it's hard to see how they would manage to sell liquor for takeout, no?
... for a one-stop convenience. Not expecting you to buy a bottle of Johnny Walker with that Red Lobster or Swiss Chalet or whatever you fancy meal.
 

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Those people over 60 who slashed resident positions and health care spending, resulting in the capacity shortages we have now?
Maybe they should have been thinking of who was going to take care of them when they started killing the training pipeline decades ago.
The people who made those decisions will never suffer from them because they are in the upper echelons of government. Remember when Chretien had a heart problem? Remember how long he had to wait to see a specialist? Not even 5 minutes. Have you ever gotten to see a doctor that fast, for anything? You can be sure the big shots will always have the best medical care, even if the rest of us are dying in hospital corridors.
 

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The people who made those decisions will never suffer from them because they are in the upper echelons of government. Remember when Chretien had a heart problem? Remember how long he had to wait to see a specialist? Not even 5 minutes. Have you ever gotten to see a doctor that fast, for anything? You can be sure the big shots will always have the best medical care, even if the rest of us are dying in hospital corridors.
I know 2 people in the last year who have experienced chest pains in the last year. Both of them were taken to the hospital by ambulance and seen immediately by a doctor. Not even 5 minutes.

I ruptured my Achilles tendon in 2009 on a Thursday, went to a sport's clinic on Friday, and underwent surgery on the following Monday.
 

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I know 2 people in the last year who have experienced chest pains in the last year. Both of them were taken to the hospital by ambulance and seen immediately by a doctor. Not even 5 minutes.

I ruptured my Achilles tendon in 2009 on a Thursday, went to a sport's clinic on Friday, and underwent surgery on the following Monday.
My father waited over a year for a hip surgery.
To be even sketchier, the specialist didn't even accept the referal for over 10 months, then he accepted it, and got the surgery done within a few months.
So the official "wait time" at the surgeon was very short, even though the actual problem existed.

Quality and out of pocket expenses were good, but the wait times are horrible.
 

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My father waited over a year for a hip surgery.
To be even sketchier, the specialist didn't even accept the referal for over 10 months, then he accepted it, and got the surgery done within a few months.
So the official "wait time" at the surgeon was very short, even though the actual problem existed.

Quality and out of pocket expenses were good, but the wait times are horrible.
I was responding to the comment about heart problems, but it is true that knee and hip surgeries have waiting lists...I waited 6 months for ACL surgery. But I had a desk job and could walk around comfortably so I wasn't a priority. My Achilles rupture was more serious and they operated immediately. But a friend only waited a week or so for knee surgery because he was a roofer and obviously needed a healthy leg to work.
 

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I know 2 people in the last year who have experienced chest pains in the last year. Both of them were taken to the hospital by ambulance and seen immediately by a doctor. Not even 5 minutes.

I ruptured my Achilles tendon in 2009 on a Thursday, went to a sport's clinic on Friday, and underwent surgery on the following Monday.
That sure doesn't sound like my experience. Doctors and hospitals must be a lot different where you are.
 

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The government & order followers not Covid did the damage. Now they are going to turn the knifes in the back & ban plastics that is useful for takeout
 
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