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When we fast track immigrants to escape war in their countries, it also bumps out other immigrant applicants.

Bring in the Syrians, bring in the Afghanis, bring in the Ukrainians,......there is a limit to how many immigrants we can accept.
Sags only cares about social programs for himself because he's a saggy bag

He doesn't care about people who had real misfortune in life.

You deserve exactly what you got sags. I feel bad for your kids
 

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The US describes their airport and travel situation as a "travel catastrophe", with the cancelling of 1000 to 1600 flights a day and delays for thousands of other flights causing many missed connections and mayhem in the airports.

The airlines and the analysts say it is because of climate change induced weather in fhe form of very severe thunderstorms, rain downpours, dangerous lightning, and high winds.

They are saying the public is going to have to learn to live with it, because they expect weather to be a more disruptive factor in the future.

I suppose some posters will blame Trudeau though.
 

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Shouldn't you be busy pumping sleaze coins, or slimy, worthless NFTs somewhere ?
No I don't want to be worthless excuse for a saggy man like yourself

You think people who got their union job at a party need government assistance more than people from war torn countries. You got more than you deserve and you only whine for more while looking down on others who have it far worse

There's a reason most users have blocked and ignored you here.
 

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That's my interpretation of your post: what's better - slow service or no service at all - and your answer is no service at all is better.
Yes, if taxpayers spend 100,000$/year on a salary of a worker doing $10,000 worth of work, then yes, it is better for a worker to get fired, and 10 workers who sit at home instead of being effective can be replaced by 1 who is willing to work effectively from office.

And if government is incapable of providing the service with efficiency, then the service needs to be outsourced
 

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10 workers who sit at home instead of being effective can be replaced by 1 who is willing to work effectively from office.
What you don't understand is that you won't be finding that one person, because he must likely already have a job or he'll quit for a better job a few months after being hired. Hiring managers are already dealing with the leftovers, when hiring people for administrative jobs they end up looking at candidates from Wendy's.
 

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^ I think the upcoming recession will rectify the labour shortage of the moment. Businesses always work in cycles with management's thinking(?) in sync.
 

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What you don't understand is that you won't be finding that one person, because he must likely already have a job or he'll quit for a better job a few months after being hired. Hiring managers are already dealing with the leftovers, when hiring people for administrative jobs they end up looking at candidates from Wendy's.
Then the candidate from Wendy's will have to get his *** to the office.
And yes, if a candidate from Wendy's is doing 10k worth of work for 100k cost of employment, the candidate from Wendy's needs to be laid off and services he does outsourced if other candidates from Wendy's still refuse to physically show up to work
 

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Outsourced to who? There's no workforce, lol
You keep saying that but there are reasons, self-inflicted, easily fixable, of why there is no workforce:
  • immigration backlog that we were talking about - by getting asses back in the office (and if that causes certain % of your workforce who are inefficient to quit, so be it), and working through the backlog, workforce will immediately improve
  • ending all the mandates
  • lower giveaways, which will not only actually help power the debt, but will also decrease disincentives from working
  • consistent order across all branches of government to go back to work from office (the article discussed mentions inconsistencies across different branches)
  • end of moratorium for evictions

All of these would immediately help with work efficiency, and all of those would immediately help with increasing workforce.

Lack of workforce isn't accidental - it is a result of poor policies and poor management
 

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You keep saying that but there are reasons, self-inflicted, easily fixable, of why there is no workforce
You have a great recipe for a disaster.

Do you have the same advice for the US? How would you solve the fact that there's about 2 jobs opening for every 1 unemployed person in the US? (0.5 unemployed per job opening)


We're getting near that situation in Canada also, but we still have a much healthier ratio (compared to US) at 1.2 unemployed per job vacancy, even though that's way too low


But that's still way too low, because say we have 1,000,000 job vacancies and 1,200,000 unemployed, do you truly believe those people are all qualified to fill all those job vacancies?

Also, I have a little story for you, but that's about the private IT sector. I've seen people being hired and being payed for MONTHS doing nothing else than "sit and wait" simply because they wanted to make sure they'd have the workforce available for every new contracts they'd get with their clients. It was a more profitable solution.
 

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Yes, same advice for the US.
And yes, skills mismatch is certainly a thing.
Neither immigration, nor service canada processing are high-skilled jobs though so not the issue here.

And unemployment numbers are relatively irrelevant, especially when taken alone. Canada lost jobs for past 2 months yet unemployment number actually went down - because labor force participation has decreased.
And labor force participation is decreasing because of disincentivizing or straight up prohibiting work.
Look at mandates for example. A well qualified doctor/nurse is unlikely to be in a situation in which they can't afford either to move or stay without work for certain period of time. By prohibiting them from working, you are removing another person from workforce.

And look at immigration backlog - 2.7mln, including tens of thousands of healthcare workers. Every single processed application means one more employee. But because people get paid to do nothing at home in government instead of having their asses back in offices, the backlog keeps growing, and the amount of people that WANT TO work but aren't allowed to due to beaurocracy keeps increasing every month.

Getting federal employees back to offices and getting them to actually work through the backlog will alleviate a lot of pain in labor market. GIving them taxpayer money for doing nothing because they might not be happy if actually asked to work is a ridiculous argument
 

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getting asses back in the office (and if that causes certain % of your workforce who are inefficient to quit, so be it)
You could lose 40% to 50% of your workforce.

"A May survey of 1,000 U.S. adults showed that 39 per cent would consider quitting if their employers weren’t flexible about remote work. The generational difference is clear: Among millennials and Gen Z, that figure was 49 per cent, according to the poll by Morning Consult on behalf of Bloomberg News."

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Neither immigration, nor service canada processing are high-skilled jobs though so not the issue here.
Oh man, you are overestimating the competency and intelligence of low-level administrative people working for the government. Yes, it is definitely an issue.

Getting federal employees back to offices
I still don't understand how you believe federal employees have to go back to offices to work. Those who were efficient workers at the offices are now efficient workers at home. Those who are inefficient workers at home will also be inefficient workers in the offices.
 

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Getting federal employees back to offices
Hey, wait a minute... You don't like authoritarian governments but you advocate for authoritarian employers?

Authoritarian: demanding that people obey completely and refusing to allow them freedom to act as they wish

Employers should not trust their employees?

 

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You could lose 40% to 50% of your workforce.

"A May survey of 1,000 U.S. adults showed that 39 per cent would consider quitting if their employers weren’t flexible about remote work. The generational difference is clear: Among millennials and Gen Z, that figure was 49 per cent, according to the poll by Morning Consult on behalf of Bloomberg News."

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Yes, assuming they have an alternative to go somewhere else where they can continue to sit at home.
Sadly, in Canada government is the biggest employer. That means if all government agencies decide that work from home is over and it is time to finally get work done and move to the office, then the employees will not have an alternative.
Unless you are suggesting the 40-50% will just retire?
 

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Hey, wait a minute... You don't like authoritarian governments but you advocate for authoritarian employers?

Authoritarian: demanding that people obey completely and refusing to allow them freedom to act as they wish

Employers should not trust their employees?

What are you talking about? You drunk too much today?
Employer telling you what to do at work is not authoritarian at all. You trade your time and skills for certain work. It is as liberal as it gets.

If there isn't a 100% efficiency when working from home then yes, employer has all the right to ask you to get back to the office
 

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That means if all government agencies decide that work from home is over and it is time to finally get work done and move to the office, then the employees will not have an alternative.
You think public service unions will allow this kind of decision easily?
 
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