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What faith based policies did Harper bring in?
Were they "bad"?
Harper said very explicitly that he wants to pursue a religious demographic as part of the voter base, and has made direct attempts to appeal to them. This is exactly what the Republicans did starting with Reagan as well.

Just like an islamist, (swapping the religion) Harper directly appealed to a fundamentalist Christian supporters to gain and preserve political power. There are a variety of policies this impacted, but it definitely played into his middle east warmongering policies, plus his not to subtle anti-Muslim policies.

The part I disagree with most firmly though was Harper's decision to directly appeal to very religious people and have their ideologies influence politicians. This is not what we're supposed to do in a secular country.

Absolutely, it's very bad stuff. Harper's aggressive middle east policies put Canada in harm's way, endangered our soldiers, resulted in over 100 deaths of our soldiers, resulted in Canada killing middle east civilians, weakened the rights & freedoms of citizens with Muslim backgrounds and even weakened the citizenship rights of many Canadians. In his final couple years, Harper basically became an unhinged Republican.

Trudeau immediately put an end to many of those policies. He not only promised to, but he reversed some of Harper's most disgusting policies as soon as he was elected.
 

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@Money172375 if only people could be this disciplined to keep politics in an isolated area.

But you know that's not how it works. Some of our esteemed forum members can't post on a vaccine thread without praising Putin or talking about Islamists (talk about non sequitur) and can't comment on any stimulus discussion without foaming at the mouth about Trudeau.
 

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We will insult anyone who doesn’t agree with our narrative with terms like “fascist”, “racists”, “misogynists”, “denier” and countless other terms designed to control the narrative without any discussion of the facts on the ground.
This stuff is very funny coming from you. You're a guy who goes around insulting your political enemies all the time. It's pretty much baked into the way you speak! You have done it on the first page of this thread.

Just 2 hours before your latest message, Eder, you did another one of your "mocking femininity" attacks, and also threw in another attack on visible minorities by calling a Sikh man 'Marge Simpson', mocking his religious attire.

You should be kicked off this board for your constant hostility, misogyny and attacks on minorities. How are you allowed to get away with this stuff?
 

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Harper, Scheer, and O'Toole have led the Conservatives from a majority government to a regional fringe party. Liberals should send them thank you cards.
What I really want to know... and journalists must find out... is, do the Conservatives still model themselves after the Republicans, like Harper wanted to do?

This is a very important question. The Republicans no longer believe in basic democracy. They overtly try to steal elections, try to get a dictator into power, and cover for him. They have given up on pretending that they believe in the American constitution, or in western democracy.

I want to know where the Conservatives stand on it. Do they plan to do something similar in Canada? So far they have been imitating everything the Republicans do.
 

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I do hold back for posters on this blog though...something poster "moderator2" recommended we do, but you don't.
The mods also allow you and @gibor365 to constantly post unacceptable content, like your post #13 on page 1. You're breaking acceptable content guidelines and get away with it.

What's your point? There's a lot of leeway given here.
 

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Like you calling me gay? You should have banned yourself.
I did not call you gay. I said you have a 'pretty imagination' because of your interest in Justin's socks, hair, and imagining him as a ballerina.

A 'pretty imagination' is not a bad thing. I think that I have a pretty imagination myself... I hope I do, anyway. "Pretty" is not bad. "Pretty" is not gay.

YOU imagined that I was calling you gay. I don't think you are gay. I'm certain you're a heterosexual man.

Look man, I seriously have no idea why you're so interested in the man's hair, socks, and the ballerina thing... but YOU are interested in it. You post constantly about it, most recently, 4 hours ago.

I wrote an encouraging post that was very positive, actually. I praised your imagination... this stuff you write is kind of funny, kind of interesting, but definitely imaginative. I really have no clue why you care so much about those things, but by publicly posting it as frequently as you do, you're putting it on the agenda.

I'm sorry you thought I called you gay.
 

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Anyone who is for insecure elections is against democracy.
Today it's the lefties who want insecure elections, therefore they're the ones against democracy.
The centrist and left wing are completely in support of democracy. It is most definitely right wingers who don't believe in elections. In fact, they've been trying for months to overthrow the American election and install a dictator.

The Republican Party fundamentally does not believe in democracy, and many of their voters don't believe in democracy either. They prefer dictatorship and autocratic rule.

Even now, with Trump exposed as an election cheat and having violated many rules of the Constitution, and even organized an uprising to overthrow government, the Republicans still stand by him! They are the greatest threat to America in modern history.

Forget about Islamists... or socialists... or communists. None of these groups ever came close to destroying America. The people who are trying to overthrow America and end freedom & democracy are, in fact, conservatives.

American conservatives are enemies of western democracy. We need to know if Canada's Conservatives align with the Americans, or not.
 

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Sorry, but that's bordering on political hate speech.
Conservatives who don't support democracy are by definition not Conservatives.
It's completely accurate to say that people who directly subvert and dismantle democratic systems are enemies of western democracy.

It's like saying that someone who blows up bridges is an enemy of bridges. It's a statement of fact.

Most Republican supporters (especially MAGA) have been trying to overthrow democracy. Therefore, they are enemies of the western democratic system. They are not on board with American democracy.
 

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It's the extremists on the left and right who are trying to destroy democracy.
The 'extremists on the right' consist of top Republicans: Trump, Hawley, Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham, plus countless others... very powerful people who lead huge numbers of Americans. That is real power, obviously.

'Extremists on the left' are nowhere to be found. They don't have any positions of power, and never have had power. They are meaningless.

I don't like extremists of any kind. But the only extremists which pose any threat are the right wing extremists. The Republicans are in fact a party of extremists, and they are trying to end American democracy. This is not a legitimate political party any more.

Trump/Hawley/Giuliani should be labelled as insurgent rebels and criminally charged, for attempting to overthrow the USA.
 

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.....

Elizabeth Warren.....
What nonsense. These people never tried to overthrow government, did not corrupt the election, and they obviously never encouraged their supporters to hunt down and kill politicians.

Unlike right wing extremists, the politicians you mentioned actually believe in western democracy and the American constitution.
 

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Democrats corrupted last elections, 1st time when Trump won , they weren't prepared, but this time they were ready and in last 2 hours made sure Biden wins
It's called an election gibor. This was a fair election. This isn't like Russia where Putin makes up the results and then has all his political enemies killed.

As much as you might like Putin as czar, and Trump dictatorship, that's not what America does.
 

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There have been no significant levels of voting fraud in either Canada or the US. Even Trump's Attorney General, Barr, said explicitly: this election was perfectly secure and there was no widespread voting fraud. That's Trump's man who said that! Top DHS and FBI officials said the same.

I don't see why one should worry about when there hasn't actually been any demonstrated voting fraud at any significant level.

The Republicans demanded recounts all over the place. The results did not change, except I think Trump actually lost some votes during the recounts.

There are much bigger concerns. Specifically, Trump tried -- repeatedly -- to overturn the election results unfairly, using a variety of techniques. He tried to steal the election the way a dictator would, through trickery and abuse of power.

Voter fraud demonstrated? No, nothing meaningful.
A crooked president trying to overturn the election? YES - this actually happened.

So logically, one must focus on the second problem. That means looking at how Trump tried to overturn the election, criminally prosecuting him, and strengthening the system.
 

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That's why it is important to address these issues.
We know one party doesn't like voter verification, and they happened to win.
This is more right wing propaganda.

As usual, you are stretching the truth. The Republicans have been actively doing voter suppression for a long time, targeting minority communities which tend to not vote for them.

The Republicans always try to make it harder for minorities and marginalized groups to vote. This is a deliberate election manipulation tactic to solidify their votes from wealthy white people and try to suppress votes from non-whites, and poorer people.

They spin it as election safety, which is what you're posting about here. That's not really what it's about. These are the old tricks of the Republicans for how to subvert democratic systems.
 

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It's sad to see people showing so little faith in Canada. Maybe we can create a forum section for people to complain about how the country will collapse. I know who will be posting there :)

I've heard these kinds of comments over the years, and observed that they come from cynicism and deep-rooted negativity. It's also very common among American conservatives in particular.
 

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You have people attacking the fundamental western liberal institutions of our society, so yes there is a problem.
Yes we do have people attacking actual democracy itself. Republicans have given up on fair democracy and now prefer to have a dictator in charge... they even tried to illegally seize power just a couple months ago!

Also conservatives care about the foundations of society (it's what they want to conserve)
This obviously isn't true, since American conservatives tried repeatedly to overthrow democratic elections.

At least in the US, many conservatives no longer believe in the system of western democracy or the US constitution. They are clearly not trying to preserve the foundation of their society.
 

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Trump and his followers are destroying the conservative movements in the USA.
I agree with you here, but the Republican Party decided to go with Trump. They even had the opportunity to impeach Trump and prevent him from ever running again. Several Republicans wanted to of course. In the end, they decided not to do that either.

This is why I think the Republican Party has passed the point of no return.

I don't believe the Trump brand would take hold in Canada. He wouldn't ever get elected here.
I wouldn't be so sure. I was living in the US when the Trump phenomenon started, and everyone was very dismissive about the whole thing.

My advice is, don't be complacent. Canada has many of the same trends that led to Trump. And even among my own friends, I know at least one Canadian who has recently lost his mind and turned into full-blown MAGA nut.
 

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They held there noses for fear that the Trump mob would target them for their own elections.they are hoping the the Trump will die and disappear.
The problem is the conservative movement (in the US anyway) courted these crazies & lunatics for quite a while. They (the Republicans) turned what was once a fringe movement, into a powerful force... people who believe conspiracy theories, who absolutely hate government, and want a civil war or violent uprising.

This is what American conservatives chose to create. This didn't happen accidentally; it was engineered to become this. Now, the monsters they created (MAGA people) are out of control.

So yes, I do blame American conservatives quite a bit for all this. For the last 40 years, they've been feeding this MAGA movement.
 

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They're training him to sync his lip movements to coincide with audio playing on the teleprompter. Takes time.
Biden seems quite sharp. I know that the right wing propaganda machine has been feeding you this story, but one day you might learn to think for yourself.

Stop letting Fox News think for you.
 

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I am not a fan of people in Canada furthering their "fights from their homelands" here. There is a long history of old fights resulting in violence and even terrorist attacks in Canada, including the Irish (assassination of a Prime Minister and attempt on the Queen), Sikh Indians (largest plane bombing in Canadian history), Tamils, and others.

Peaceful protests are perfectly fine and legal, but the moment there is any fight or altercation, it has to be shut down. That includes hostility and harassment of other groups.
 
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