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Changed the title slightly so that the thread can cover more than just vaccines.

I also want to make it clear that we (site staff) strongly recommend listening to the health guidance of public health authorities, such as federal, and provincial health web sites.
 

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Innovating to zero!

In the above video between 4:02 - 4:45 Bill says through good vaccine population can be reduced by 10 - 15%
You are misquoting Bill. He said the following:
-World population is 6.8B (at time of publication)
-World population is trending to 9B
-Perhaps that peak could be reduced by 10-15%
-That peak getting reduced by, among other things, vaccination does absolutely not imply some evil plot to kill people with vaccines. That is insane. What is does refer to is the fact that fertility rate is inversely proportional to life expectancy and child survival to adulthood. Once fewer children die of childhood illnesses through vaccination (and improved healthcare, nutrition, etc.), women have fewer children and invest more in the children they do have. This pattern has repeated across the world as countries have gotten richer, more educated and healthier.

He said "There [In world population] we see an increase of about 1.3 [billion]". That is, a population rising from 6.8B to 8.1B.

If you see the whole talk in context, you can see that he was emphasizing that the way to get to zero carbon is to focus on energy efficiency and low carbon forms of energy.


The fact that you think Bill Gates copped to his secret illuminati plot to kill hundreds of millions of people in a TED talk speaks volumes.
 

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Myself, I think Bill Gates wants to contribute some of his massive wealth towards fighting major illnesses in the world. He wants to give back to society, and he has a particular "mission" that motivates him... fighting disease.

Even before this outbreak, the Gates Foundation was putting tremendous resources into reducing deaths from infectious diseases.
 

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James the above link I provided agrees he was funding organizations that have controlled how we have reacted in regards to CORNA. We have been given a lot of miss information, Follow the money Maybe the above link I provided is on to something ? What is the real motive & is the funding making him money like the report says as well as giving him power ? CO2 is going down
 

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Gates' wealth stems primarily from his ownership stake in Microsoft. The 30 minute rambling video you posted scarily intones that Gates' net worth has doubled in the past decade even while he has been donating many billions of dollars to public health research. Nevermind that his wealth doubled because Microsoft found its footing again. It's not clear how that is part of Bill Gates' evil plot to keep children from dying or being crippled.

Sorry, but this is junk.

What boggles my mind is how you believe this tripe, yet ignore how Trump is enriching himself through abuse of his office, including opening a hotel in DC where foreign dignitaries are encouraged to stay in what is essentially a bribery scheme for foreign powers to buy influence.
 

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Can't wait to get non mainstream info on the Moon landing, homeopathy and flat Earth. Please keep them coming.
 

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Clearly lonewolf, you fail to understand what Gates was actually saying. That as countries progress and more children are vaccinated for childhood diseases such as measles, etc. there tends to be a reduction in the number of children people then go on to have. That reduction in the number of children people choose to have is what would reduce the global population number.

You provide a perfect example of how some people simply can't grasp what is in fact a simple concept. Instead, you read into it a suggestion of some kind of global conspiracy to kill people off. That's absolutely false.

Then in stating your mistaken beliefs, YOU are then the person spreading misinformation and falsehoods.

To the Mods, I do not think it is enough to simply state you 'strongly recommend' listening to the health authorities. In my opinion you have a RESPONSIBILITY to the public to REMOVE any threads or comments that in fact CLEARLY fall into the category of misinformation or misleading opinions. You are providing lonewolf a platform from which to spread his nonsense. Shame on you. Remove this thread entirely.
 

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Can't wait to get non mainstream info on the Moon landing, homeopathy and flat Earth. Please keep them coming.
There's no need to wait...all of that is readily available, no matter how far fetched. But YouTube finds it necessary to block opposing viewpoints to the "official" stance on Covid.

Some people are okay with censorship but many of us oppose it.
 

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To the Mods, I do not think it is enough to simply state you 'strongly recommend' listening to the health authorities. In my opinion you have a RESPONSIBILITY to the public to REMOVE any threads or comments that in fact CLEARLY fall into the category of misinformation or misleading opinions. You are providing lonewolf a platform from which to spread his nonsense. Shame on you. Remove this thread entirely.
Your onionin is just that...an opinion. You don't have the right to demand opposing opinons be removed. You're also not a medical expert who has the ability to determine who is right or wrong.

Would you be okay with me demanding that your comments be removed?
 

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It only takes a few cranks do to a lot of harm when it comes to COVID, by encouraging people to behave in a way that promotes the spread of the virus.
 

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It only takes a few cranks do to a lot of harm when it comes to COVID, by encouraging people to behave in a way that promotes the spread of the virus.
It only takes one. Andrew Cuomo sent sick people back to elderly care homes and is responsible for the death of thousands.
 

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Your onionin is just that...an opinion. You don't have the right to demand opposing opinons be removed. You're also not a medical expert who has the ability to determine who is right or wrong.

Would you be okay with me demanding that your comments be removed?
I have no problem with someone having an opposing view and wanting to debate an issue Prairie Guy. But an opposing view is not the same thing as 100% factually incorrect misinformation being presented as if it were 100% ACTUAL fact. That is what lonewolf is doing here.

I would EXPECT you to complain and ask to have any comment I made removed, IF it were stated as a fact and IF it was easy to show that it was not a fact at all, as lonewolf's comments about Gates and vaccines is.

My comment is that Gates was talking about how when more children are vaccinated against diseases, it results in people having less children. So when looking at future world population growth, you will get one number using current birth rates per country and a different number if you increase the number of children being vaccinated in the world. That's ALL Gates was saying.

Meanwhile, lonewolf takes what Gates said, totally misinterprets it and says you would have to vaccinate him at the point of a gun! So what does lonewolf believe Gates was saying? Obviously, he thinks Gates was saying we can use vaccines to KILL people and reduce the population. That is 100% FALSE.

Giving someone a platform in which to spread 100% false information as if it were fact, will lead to SOME people believing that false information. We have only to look at the issue of 'anti-vaccine proponents' to see that in action. Just like lonewolf and his obvious inability to understand what Gates was actually talking about, you have people listening to false information about measles vaccines and believing what they hear/read. People are not all smart enough to be left on their own to do enough fact checking to figure it out for themselves.
 

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In the spirit of "Free Speech", or "No Censor", I think this thread be up. However, I think a WARNING (such as ENTER AT YOUR OWN PERIL) should be added to the title of this thread. EOM. :sick:
 

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I also think it's pretty funny how Lonewolf complains about misinformation and then links to the most insane misinformation.
 
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