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New Zealand's Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern, was re-elected and actually won a majority in Parliament, which hasn't happened in 24 years. Wow! A landslide victory.


Congratulations to New Zealand!

What an amazing woman. She was elected at age 37 and gave birth to a child while in office. She's a feminist. Has a very ambitious carbon reduction platform.

She's aggressively raising the minimum wage, and expanding benefits to less fortunate people.

After the white supremacist terrorist attack rocked the nation, she appeared wearing a hijab in solidarity and boldly banned assault rifles and semi-automatic rifles just weeks after the attack. And then of course was the impressive response on COVID19. The country's response was so effective that medical journals now study the country.

What do you think @Prairie Guy , @MrMatt , and @Eder ... maybe you would enjoy having a leader like her in Canada?
 

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Don't know about her, but it seems her policies are in line with New Zealand values so maybe she's a good leader for them.
I don't think her policies are anything but a populist response to the situtation.
Things like high minimum wage aren't good for the economy, or to attack poverty, but such populist tripe is very common among politics these days.

Specifically on COVID, I think every countries response is being studied. That they took it seriously and actually closed the borders, unlike the relatively loose we have in Canada is obviously part of the problem.

Medical journals actually don't even run studies, so I'm not sure what you're referring to. Journals just publish the studies others write.
 

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Don't know about her, but it seems her policies are in line with New Zealand values so maybe she's a good leader for them.
I don't think her policies are anything but a populist response to the situtation.
I think her policies are in line with both New Zealand and Canadian values. I think this is our future ... we're going to have more leaders along these lines for the decades to come (and Justin Trudeau is in the same ballpark).

Young Canadians are very committed to environmental concerns, and there's absolutely no way at this point that women + LGBT folks are going to give up their hard-fought rights. Younger generations are less religious as well.

Social conservatism and religious fundamentalism in politics (Republicans since Reagan and Conservatives since Harper) are fading away. These are very old fashioned values that will become nearly irrelevant in coming decades, especially as millennials take charge of the country and economy.
 

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Social conservatism and religious fundamentalism in politics (Republicans since Reagan and Conservatives since Harper) are fading away. These are very old fashioned values that will become nearly irrelevant in coming decades, especially as millennials take charge of the country and economy.
Yep, you're correct, Social conservatism and religious fundamentalism in politics is being replace with fiscal conservatives who understand the economy. Millennials and their childish socialists' ways will be replaced with fiscal conservatives just as it was with the hippies of my day. Thank goodness.

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I think her policies are in line with both New Zealand and Canadian values. I think this is our future ... we're going to have more leaders along these lines for the decades to come (and Justin Trudeau is in the same ballpark).

Young Canadians are very committed to environmental concerns, and there's absolutely no way at this point that women + LGBT folks are going to give up their hard-fought rights. Younger generations are less religious as well.

Social conservatism and religious fundamentalism in politics (Republicans since Reagan and Conservatives since Harper) are fading away. These are very old fashioned values that will become nearly irrelevant in coming decades, especially as millennials take charge of the country and economy.
I don't care about the religious crap. I do care about the erosion of morals, and lack of a cohesive system of values.

The problem is with the destructive nanny state that some people want to have, it's destructive to both society AND the individual.
 

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Yep, you're correct, Social conservatism and religious fundamentalism in politics is being replace with fiscal conservatives who understand the economy. Millennials and their childish socialists' ways will be replaced with fiscal conservatives just as it was with the hippies of my day. Thank goodness.
I would very much welcome the Conservatives switching to a purely fiscal and economic focus and stopping with the social conservatism nonsense.

Harper was a Reagan / Republican wanna be and he set the tone for the Conservatives along these lines.

I have voted PC in the past, but I consider that a different party (which is now gone). It would be smart for the Conservatives to become more progressive and embrace social values, while hammering home fiscal issues. Take a look at policies of conservative PMs such as Brian Mulroney and Joe Clark.
 

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I would very much welcome the Conservatives switching to a purely fiscal and economic focus and stopping with the social conservatism nonsense.

Harper was a Reagan / Republican wanna be and he set the tone for the Conservatives along these lines.

I have voted PC in the past, but I consider that a different party (which is now gone). It would be smart for the Conservatives to become more progressive and embrace social values, while hammering home fiscal issues. Take a look at policies of conservative PMs such as Brian Mulroney and Joe Clark.
Well CPC is fiscal conservative (good) and some social conservative (which I don't care about)
Liberals are fiscally irresponsible (bad) and social justice (really bad)

The thing is Conservatives do embrace social values, they're just different values depending on which "conservatives" you're talking about.
The thing is that the Liberal nanny state has pushed Libertarians to the Conservatives, which is a bizarre pairing, except that modern Conservatives are more open and accepting.
 

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The "conservative" parties in Canada (both federal and provincial) have generally not been very fiscally conservative. This is somewhat of a myth. Harper cut the GST which hurt Canada's budget and financial positioning for many years to come.

It was the Liberals / Paul Martin who actually improved Canada's finances dramatically.
 

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It was the Liberals / Paul Martin who actually improved Canada's finances dramatically.
Not because of Liberal policy. Martin had absolutely no choice because we had essentially hit the debt wall. As it was, most of the cuts were transfers to provinces causing them to wallow in financial straits. You have to look under the hood to see what really happened in that time period.

Now we have a PM that is in love with himself, much like Trump is. JT is constantly looking for affirmation and adulation by writing cheques and running amok with political correctness, while at the same time taking a paternalistic holier-than-thou position with the populace. Listen to daddy because Father Knows Best.

P.S. JT could never compete with Jacinda Ardern. She is genuine in her actions while JT is mostly phoney veneer. If we could only have a real PM someday.
 
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