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Joe Biden selects Kamala Harris as Vice President.
I guess I was wrong, I thought it would be Val Demings because of her law and order background.
 

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In 2008 Obama got 365 Electoral College Votes (53% popular vote) and he was running against McCain and Sara Palin.
Because I think that Biden will need to impose Martial Law, he needs at least 380 ECV out of 538 to do this without too much resistance.
Trump won 304 ECV in 2016.
Harris is a made for TV candidate. To win a Senate seat in California you need to be telegenic. Quite the comparison to Pence.
 

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Great news! Has anyone told Joe Biden yet?
It's need to know, and he doesn't need to know.

I'm really wondering, why does the DNC want Trump to be a two term president?

Horrible choice, she's pretty darn evil, there are a LOT of good reasons she was a bad choice for president. Lets be honest, this isn't about making her VP, it's about trying to get her into the Oval.
 

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I think Kamala Harris, having been AG of California, also has bit of law and order aura to her. I am not sure if that helps or hurts with the Democratic base, but it may help with the undecided suburban voters.
 

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Some of the far-right circles of the internet I watch have already started with aggressive misogynist attacks on Kamala.

I think the deplorables are going to enjoy this candidate. They gain a lot of energy from misogynist attacks, and I think they will enjoy her Jamaican heritage as well. Exactly their favourite thing ... a liberal non-white female.
 

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I'm not following your logic. Please share: what does this statement have to do with anything?
I know it does seem confusing to want the person that can do the best job and not whether they are black or white or indian or chinese or female, because I never hear anyone talking about that. For some crazy reason it seem important to me. This person may well be the next President if Biden can't get through. Let's forget about anything else but whether they can do the best job compared to the other candidates.

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I'm not following your logic. Please share: what does this statement have to do with anything?
Perhaps you're not aware, but there was a US presidential candidate, that rather than address the concerns of a large number of voters, simply called them "deplorable", in a pathetic attempt to avoid addressing their concerns.

For some, dismissing the concerns of (by the candidates count) 25% of Americans in such a manner was very distasteful and arguably cost the candidate the election. It's that arrogance that cost the election, and quite honestly putting up a second rate candidate because they tick some identity boxes is insulting.
 

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"Deplorables" referred to people who had highly distasteful, backwards views (racist/sexist). They are a significant segment of the right wing voter base.

This remains true to this day. And I just gave you an example: I went to a right wing area of the internet. The only thing I saw were attacks on Harris based on her sexuality.

I did not see them discussing her public service history and the way she's voted on issues. I saw them discussing her sexuality... because that's what deplorables do.

Not every right-leaning voter has this kind of mind set. But it's clearly prevalent enough that when I took a random sample, just went to read a message board or two, it's the FIRST thing I saw discussed. I know you guys are in denial about this, but there are a lot of "deplorables" among MAGA people.
 

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and quite honestly putting up a second rate candidate because they tick some identity boxes is insulting.
Just so I understand. Are you saying that Harris is a second rate candidate, and she was only selected because of her gender & ethnicity?
 

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"Deplorables" referred to people who had highly distasteful, backwards views (racist/sexist). They are a significant segment of the right wing voter base.

This remains true to this day. And I just gave you an example: I went to a right wing area of the internet. The only thing I saw were attacks on Harris based on her sexuality.

I did not see them discussing her public service history and the way she's voted on issues. I saw them discussing her sexuality... because that's what deplorables do.

Not every right-leaning voter has this kind of mind set. But it's clearly prevalent enough that when I took a random sample, just went to read a message board or two, it's the FIRST thing I saw discussed. I know you guys are in denial about this, but there are a lot of "deplorables" among MAGA people.
They are not a significant % and that is what liberal identity politics would have you believe. If you aren't w us you are deplorable.

There maybe be a small group on internet forums. The internet is full of loony lefty hollywood and other liberal types too who were threatening and insulting the President , his family and the WH. Democrat Senators like Maxine Waters and Rahsida Tlaib calling him a MF and much worse. Hilary and Joe are friends w Robert Byrd a past KKK grand dragon lol. Deplorable behavior on all sides.

Hilary called 1/2 the 60 M Repub voters 'deplorable' She was just bitter running a failing out of touch Liberal campaign and under investigation by the FBI for jeopardizing national security and lashing out in all directions.
 

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I think Biden should have said, publically before identifying Ms, Harris as his running mate, that he would take the best-qualified candidate he could find. I hope that Dems can survive the next few weeks with the same lead that they had in the polls. It's going to get nasty. That's the way "the donald" rolls.
 

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I think that this campaign is going to be about "Socialism" and not the usual foreign policy stuff. And Biden will win control of both the congress and the senate.

All the protesters roaming the streets across America want to talk Socialism and not the military or making more bombs and bullets.

Bernie Sanders will rock the house.

Because the bomb builders have financed the campaign, Biden will promise Socialism, but deliver nothing just like Obama did.

The bomb builders will finance opposition in 2022 and give control of the Senate back to the bomb builders and leave Biden impotent. Just like what happened with Obama. The game of musical chairs with the 2 political parties continues.

To have the protesters remain calm during this election season, I believe the media will promote Biden 24-7 and treat this election season like a Sesame Street moment on "Sharing" or a Rodney King moment of "Can't We All Just Get Along" in an attempt to pacify the protesters.

Evil Geniuses author Kurt Andersen unravels how the right helped create a wildly inequitable society—and how Americans could hold the government accountable for overlooking their economic interests.
 

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"Deplorables" referred to people who had highly distasteful, backwards views (racist/sexist). They are a significant segment of the right wing voter base.

This remains true to this day. And I just gave you an example: I went to a right wing area of the internet. The only thing I saw were attacks on Harris based on her sexuality.

I did not see them discussing her public service history and the way she's voted on issues. I saw them discussing her sexuality... because that's what deplorables do.

Not every right-leaning voter has this kind of mind set. But it's clearly prevalent enough that when I took a random sample, just went to read a message board or two, it's the FIRST thing I saw discussed. I know you guys are in denial about this, but there are a lot of "deplorables" among MAGA people.
Deplorables refers to the 1/4 of Americans where Clinton was not willing to listen to.

Rather than address concerns she, like you, would rather call them racist and sexist.
Such a statement is simply ridiculous. It doesn't even mathematically make sense.

It was an insulting throwaway line to try and dismiss the concerns of Ordinary Americans.
 

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Just so I understand. Are you saying that Harris is a second rate candidate, and she was only selected because of her gender & ethnicity?
Mostly yes. He announced he was selecting a woman, so he didn't even look at half the available people.
I believe that ethnicity was also a factor.
If she really was a first rate candidate, he wouldn't have had to pre-screen for a female candidate.
I actually think it's sexist that Biden felt he had to limit his search to female candidates. Doesn't he realize women are capable?

I also think Harris is a second rate candidate, Biden is a third rate candidate so in some ways it's a step up.

I honestly don't understand why genitalia is so important, since it has effectively zero correlation with job performance, or their ability to represent my interests.
 
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