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When the lawsuit lawyers get done with the nursing homes, they will be making changes if they are still in business.

After insurance companies pay out the hundreds of millions in claims, they won't be want to insure LTA homes anymore.

The government is going to be forced to buy, renovate or build new nursing homes.
 

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When the lawsuit lawyers get done with the nursing homes, they will be making changes if they are still in business.

After insurance companies pay out the hundreds of millions in claims, they won't be want to insure LTA homes anymore.

The government is going to be forced to buy, renovate or build new nursing homes.
How has it been determined that there will be hundreds of millions in claims? And to we know that there is insurance to cover such claims and that insurance companies have hundreds of millions to pay out?

And as for government, is that its job? Should not seniors be prepared to take care of themselves? They just might have to accept that the level of care they desire costs $10,000 a month and if you can pay it, fine, if not, don't expect those who worked hard all their lives and saved up to cover you, who partied and smoked dope for years.

And will "government" have the money anyway? There will never be a cure or vaccine (or even on the off chance it might be found, it's many years in the future), so lockdown must be regarded as permanent and "government" will have to carry on with CERB and other handouts to the indolent for the foreseeable future. I just wonder how long before the larder is bare? Or is "government" sitting on a treasure trove of wealth that knows no bounds?

It is now generally accepted that there will never ever be a return to "normal". Now, the catchphrase is the "new normal". On Vancouver news the other night there was talk of some "re-opening of the economy". So far as I am aware, the "economy" was never closed, but government edicts crippled a good portion of it.

The tv broadcast included mention of how some restaurants would re-open with limited seating, plexiglass barriers, all staff masked, hand sanitizing stations, etc. Will the public embrace that? Looked horrible to me. Hardly conducive to an enjoyable dining experience. They mentioned that self-serve buffet-style meals are gone forever. Our family used to eat in restaurants quite often. I do not expect to ever enter a restaurant again. Ditto for a barbershop. They showed that on tv, all the "new normal" way of doing things and the new C-19 surcharge being added to everyone's bill at salons and barbershops. My wife has cut my hair for many years and that will continue, and I'll continue to trim hers. But were she not there, there are Youtube videos showing how to cut your own hair. I predict that within a fairly short time, restaurants, hair salons, etc., will lapse into history. Brick and mortar stores will die out. Even grocery stores won't exist. All online and delivery. Forget about going to Home Depot and finding boards you think are not warped. Take what's delivered, or do as locals here do and mill your own.

One thing coming for sure, the public will demand the closure of just about everything. The majority on this board decry those growing restive in lockdown, who go out sans masks, who fail to be astute to keeping 2 meters of distance at all times and other egregious misconduct. People are becoming unafraid to yell "back off" at anyone entering their airspace. Everyone is becoming afraid of everyone. I witnessed near fistfights at a Costco yesterday and the pressure to keep distance was perhaps the only impediment to physical violence. But that won't last. There will be violence if the public continues to be exposed to the public. Hence, "the public" is coming to want "immunity passports" and those without (most of us) better stay out of sight. Such be the new normal.

All good for the environment though. Good to see some downside for all those hypocrites who have spoken of global warming, or climate change or whatever it is, and who have condemned the use of fossil fuels, while taking frequent vacations abroad and burning a lot of fuel to get there and back. International air travel is definitely a thing of the past. All those parked fleets of aircraft can now be recycled into beer cans. Those without immunity passports will not be allowed to drive and so motor vehicle use will abate significantly. Another boon for Mother Nature. So C-19 has a decidedly silver lining.

I expect, too, that office work will not be a part of the new normal. Can't have all those people together. So, any job that cannot be done from home won't be there anymore. Office towers will come on sale. Maybe converted into warehouse space for Amazon.com.

And that brings us full circle to sags' comment about the "lawsuit lawyers". Our courts here are closed. That's probably permanent. All litigation now will be by written submission (that has started here already with the Civil Resolution Tribunal) and by video link. Conventional trials with a public gallery won't be seen again.
 

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It is now generally accepted that there will never ever be a return to "normal". Now, the catchphrase is the "new normal".
It will return to normal, given some time. The "new normal" is just the current phrase used to remind those that covid is still around. Looking around today it is hard to tell there was/is a pandemic going on, many people are almost treating it like the "old normal" already around here.
 

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If Trump does not get ill from the HQ itself, and does not test positive for Covid-19, then when all this is almost over in a few months, he can claim to be the genius that he no doubt is. And get re-elected. Who would not vote for a genius?
 

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If Trump does not get ill from the HQ itself, and does not test positive for Covid-19, then when all this is almost over in a few months, he can claim to be the genius that he no doubt is. And get re-elected. Who would not vote for a genius?
I guess all the medical experts that approved HQ decades ago, and all the ones that prescribed it for decades were completely wrong. And all the ones that prescribing it TODAY for Covid (with success) are wrong too.

Or, maybe it's just you that's wrong. What are your medical qualifications again?
 

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And as for government, is that its job? Should not seniors be prepared to take care of themselves? They just might have to accept that the level of care they desire costs $10,000 a month and if you can pay it, fine, if not, don't expect those who worked hard all their lives and saved up to cover you, who partied and smoked dope for years.
Yeah, and unfortunately this is the case for many situations in our society. There are those of us who watch our pennies, and save up, and curb our spending, have emergency funds and prepare for any number of situations in the future, only to find our socialist government taking care of those that didn't bother being responsible about their future. It's a socialist kudos to expect to be bailed out by the government.

There will never be a cure or vaccine (or even on the off chance it might be found, it's many years in the future)
I don't know. I read a lot of the trials being into their second phase now and many are quite promising. My view is that we will have a vaccine. Never underestimate US dollars being poured into a cause.

The tv broadcast included mention of how some restaurants would re-open with limited seating, plexiglass barriers, all staff masked, hand sanitizing stations, etc. Will the public embrace that? Looked horrible to me. Hardly conducive to an enjoyable dining experience.
Yeah, a lot of these adaptations don't seem like a lot of fun.

there are YouTube videos showing how to cut your own hair. I predict that within a fairly short time, restaurants, hair salons, etc., will lapse into history. Brick and mortar stores will die out. Even grocery stores won't exist. All online and delivery. Forget about going to Home Depot and finding boards you think are not warped. Take what's delivered, or do as locals here do and mill your own.
haha, I tried to cut a bit of my hair this week at the back and you can't imagine how weird it is to do the opposite of what you want when looking into a mirror. It's tough. I quit before I made a fool of myself. Maybe I'll look up one of those YouTube videos.

Your predictions are of course predicated on there being no vaccine, that I actually think will come. Don't under-estimate the power of money in the USA.

Anyway, lots of good thoughts and ideas as usual.

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There is always a silver lining:


On the patio, people will be allowed to smoke opioids, McKenzie said, the clear glass windows ensuring outreach workers can respond immediately if someone overdoses.
I don't begrudge their current status a bit, but suggest that "Shangri-La" would be a better name than Comfort Inn.
 

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That seems pretty fishy. If they thought they had a winner, why would they sell their options?
From the story:
The securities transactions were done through automated insider trading plans, known as 10b5-1 plans, that lay out future stock trades at set prices or on set dates.
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"On its face, there is nothing wrong with these trades," Whitehead said [professor at Cornell Law School]. "It's what a 10b5-1 plan is intended for, assuming the requirements are met."
These plans regulate when and how many shares company insiders, including directors and executives, are allowed to sell. The transactions are typically executed automatically, without the insiders taking any action.
 

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I see that it was done legally. Even if they had set the time or price a few months back, they could have cancelled it when all the good new came out. There would be no penalty for cancelling a sale. Investors would have applauded that.
 

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I see that it was done legally. Even if they had set the time or price a few months back, they could have cancelled it when all the good new came out. There would be no penalty for cancelling a sale. Investors would have applauded that.
Except, wouldn't have that been the very definition of insider trading? I would have expected that once the good news came out, the stock soared past the goal stock price. I don't know specifics on how they could cancel the sale after the fact.
 

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Except, wouldn't have that been the very definition of insider trading? I would have expected that once the good news came out, the stock soared past the goal stock price. I don't know specifics on how they could cancel the sale after the fact.
It depends when the transaction date was set vis a vis when decisions to work on the vaccine were made or results became available. The optics don't look good, but it could be perfectly legal.
 

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One hair stylist affects 91 customers and fellow workers in Missouri.

Goddard did not provide details on the identity or the condition of the stylist. He said health officials have reached out to the people who were exposed, adding that the hairstylist had kept impeccable records that made contact tracing possible.
But he cautioned about the risks of overwhelming resources.
"I'm gong to be honest with you: We can't have many more of these," he said at a news conference. "We can't make this a regular habit or our capabilities as a community will be strained."


It is going pretty much as the medical experts said it would.

 

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The Moderna executives could have set the sale price in advance, knowing they were going to make an announcement that would increase the stock value.
 

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I read that article. They discuss the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine with or without a macrolide. A macrolide is an antibiotic like azithromycin or erythromycin. They inhibit the growth of bacteria, they have no effect on viruses.

We already know that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine need zinc to work against Covid 19. They do not mention zinc at all.

If someone wanted to make this treatment appear ineffective this is the way to do it. Ignore what we know works, test what we know doesn't work, then report that it doesn't work. Brilliant.
 

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I read that article. They discuss the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine with or without a macrolide. A macrolide is an antibiotic like azithromycin or erythromycin. They inhibit the growth of bacteria, they have no effect on viruses.

We already know that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine need zinc to work against Covid 19. They do not mention zinc at all.

If someone wanted to make this treatment appear ineffective this is the way to do it. Ignore what we know works, test what we know doesn't work, then report that it doesn't work. Brilliant.
You do realize that it was essentially a literature study that encompassed as many published studies as they could right? They didn't actually go out and performed a study on 96k patients. In other words, they were looking at what treatments were actually being used.

Oh, and if you haven't paid attention, Trump was touting the use of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin.
Donald J. Trump
 
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