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You make it sound like Trump wasn't already ruling for the billionaires. Trump accomplished very little in office. One of those accomplishments was massive tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans.
Yeah all the billionaires were on Trump's side except the ones running America's giant media companies, Facebook, Twitter, Google, and the ones who donated to the Clinton and Biden campaigns./sarkylert
 

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Well, worst case, we have a president starting to decline cognitively replacing a president with little cognitive capacity to begin with. This whole line of attack fell flat because Trump is an incurious dullard. I know it was a feeble attempt to recap the attack on Hillary who was supposedly at death's door. Matt is helpfully parroting this rather unsubstantiated idea.
I will bet money that Biden won't last the term.
He's really just a Trojan horse.

Harris was knocked out of the primaries, but someone really wanted her in there.
 

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Trump at his bizarre press conference today. Where did they get that kid's table ? The right front leg is broken. He looks like an idiot sitting there ranting away.

Meanwhile over at Fox News, the prime time gang went on and on about the dire consequences that would befall America "if" Biden is elected, and then after Laura Ingraham sent out a tweet about organizing the fight against Biden after Trump is gone. The tweet was later removed.

Trump, Fox News and the right wing media are playing their supporters like carnival barkers at the midway freak show, and now they are playing each other.


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I will bet money that Biden won't last the term.
He's really just a Trojan horse.

Harris was knocked out of the primaries, but someone really wanted her in there.
The Democrats wanted their best chance to beat Trump, and it worked out pretty well I would say.

Harris's time will come. After 4 years of experience as VP, she will be unbeatable in 2024.

It is a similar situation in Canada, where Chrystia Freeland is gaining the experience to replace Trudeau when the time comes.

Continuity of leadership is critically important.
 

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@MrMatt is always talking in such dark, cynical terms... "trojan horse".

Kamala Harris would make a fine president. Here's an overview of her policies.

Harris does not have the desire, nor the ability to even curtail the free goodies for corporations and billionaires. The billionaires and wealthy elites will continue to own and operate America, not pay their fair share of taxes, and refuse to fund social safety nets for the poor.

There is no prospect of "socialism" coming to the US, just as European countries, and Canada, are not socialist either. All of these countries are capitalist. The term "socialism" is thrown around by the rich to scare the public away from any politician who might dare to raise taxes on the rich.

And when I say rich, I mean actual rich. Families with billions of $ ... the ones who pass billions between generations, tax-free. The ones who can easily fund more social safety nets for the peasants (through taxes), but who are too greedy to give up any of their money. None of YOU are rich.
 

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@MrMatt is always talking in such dark, cynical terms... "trojan horse".

Kamala Harris would make a fine president. Here's an overview of her policies.
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Did you even read that link?
She wants unaccountable police, and opposes investigating police use of deadly force.
She's for the Green New Deal, and against private health insurance.

She's an authoritarian socialist, quite literally a Nazi.

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In 2015, she did not support efforts to ensure incidents of police deadly force in California were independently investigated, or that all officers should wear body cameras.

But after professing support for eliminating private health insurance companies, she swiftly backtracked.

Ms Harris was a co-sponsor of the Green New Deal, a policy paper that advocates overhauling the US economy to tackle climate change. Conservatives decry it as a "socialist manifesto".
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There is no prospect of "socialism" coming to the US, just as European countries, and Canada, are not socialist either. All of these countries are capitalist. The term "socialism" is thrown around by the rich to scare the public away from any politician who might dare to raise taxes on the rich.

And when I say rich, I mean actual rich. Families with billions of $ ... the ones who pass billions between generations, tax-free. The ones who can easily fund more social safety nets for the peasants (through taxes), but who are too greedy to give up any of their money. None of YOU are rich.
The US has estate taxes for this, they also have gift taxes.
Their "war on the rich" has been as successful as their "war on drugs"

It's normal people and the poor who end up bearing the cost.
 

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I heard on the radio that Elon Musk's net worth increased by $100 billion year over year, for no logical reason other than the run on Tesla stock.

Meanwhile tens of millions of working Americans are collecting food stamps. Some of the biggest corporations have employees collecting food stamps.

If conservatives don't see the problem, maybe they are the problem. I wonder what color the sky is on their alternative planet.
 

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Biden received the most votes of any President in US history.

Americans know what his policies are and they chose to vote for him in a historic victory.

The election is over. Americans have decided they want a different future than the one offered by the Republicans.

Here in Canada, we are going to have a similar choice in the next election.
 

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Yeah all the billionaires were on Trump's side except the ones running America's giant media companies, Facebook, Twitter, Google, and the ones who donated to the Clinton and Biden campaigns./sarkylert
How about data: exit polls show those with income >$100k voted more for Trump than Biden.

 

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Did you even read that link?
She wants unaccountable police, and opposes investigating police use of deadly force.
She's for the Green New Deal, and against private health insurance.

She's an authoritarian socialist, quite literally a Nazi.
Thanks for the Friday laugh MrMatt

I still wonder if you're "for real"
 

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I mean, I find it very unlikely that Harris was selected because someone wanted her to be president. Biden won the primary, and he picked a running mate seemingly on the basis of 1) identity politics (woman of colour) and 2) fairly mainstream views on policy. Despite how people are trying to spin her as a far left ideologue, she is no Sanders or Warren, much less AOC. I personally doubt Harris will ever be president. Likeliest scenario, Biden serves his first term and perhaps chooses not to seek re-election. Harris tries to get the nomination for 2024 but fails.
 

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2) fairly mainstream views on policy
Yes, it was fun watching the Republicans try to simultaneously say that she will defund the police (easy on crime), and bring up the fact that she had prosecuted so many pot cases as a reason Democrats should not trust her.
 

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Yes, it was fun watching the Republicans try to simultaneously say that she will defund the police (easy on crime), and bring up the fact that she had prosecuted so many pot cases as a reason Democrats should not trust her.
That's the thing, they have a lot of bad positions.
Several of which actually contradict each others.

It's what drives rational logical people nuts.
They promote systematic racial discrimination and say they're fighting racism. They even do it with a straight face, and people seem to just accept it.
 
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