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There seems to be a huge feud going on between AB government and the doctors. Kenney says doctors are overpaid, but Notley says it is the beginning of privatization. Doctors are threatening to leave en masse.


...Kenney has tried to undermine the credibility of doctors by referring to them as affluent "members of the one percent club" ...
I always thought conservatives (like republicans) are the party of the rich and powerful (I say this without being judgmental; everyone needs representation in a democracy).
 

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It seems Alberta doctors are paid more than else where in Canada...lol @ them threatening to leave. More likely others would love to get a practice here. The Alberta government will be releasing how much each doctor makes last year...should open a few eyes, doctors have hired legal help to try suppress the release...(I would have thought they would welcome showing the public how poor they are)

Of course your post seems more a barb at our CPC government with 73% approval rating more than a discussion about doctors....maybe go find a statue to push over instead.
 

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The amount they are paid is only half the story. I found out my GP gets paid a stipend every month just to have me on his books even though I only see him for one 5 minute visit every 3 years. I was diagnosed with kidney disease - which he failed to notice or warn me about, and still denies I have, even though it is confirmed by a kidney specialist after tests - but when he found out I was sick and might need him, his first thought, after denying responsibility, was to try and talk me into quitting him. In my experience doctors are out to make the maximum amount of money out of the system and do the minimum of work to get it and to hell with their patients.
 

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Of course your post seems more a barb at our CPC government with 73% approval rating more than a discussion about doctors....maybe go find a statue to push over instead.
It certainly doesn't showcase their competence when more than 40% of the doctors would prefer to leave the province.

In my experience doctors are out to make the maximum amount of money out of the system and do the minimum of work to get it and to hell with their patients.
Good point. But would changes such as salary cuts, privatization or semi-privatization help with this? Maybe compensation should be tied to quality of work. Don't ask me how.
 

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It certainly doesn't showcase their competence when more than 40% of the doctors would prefer to leave the province.



Good point. But would changes such as salary cuts, privatization or semi-privatization help with this? Maybe compensation should be tied to quality of work. Don't ask me how.
I am old enough to remember when the government nationalized health care and that is when doctors changed from professionals who cared about their patients to low level bureaucrats who cared only to get the most money for the least work.
 

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Rusty, are you being facetious? I mean, you could look at the US to see how doctors behave when not part of a national insurance system. I don't see them being any less moneygrubbing or ***-covering there.
 

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I guess well-fed doctors on guaranteed income are more concentrated on patient care than those who worry about meeting payroll or generating billing.
 

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Rusty, are you being facetious? I mean, you could look at the US to see how doctors behave when not part of a national insurance system. I don't see them being any less moneygrubbing or ***-covering there.
The AMA is a racket aimed at making a monopoly for the profit of the medical trust and they succeeded. Our system is not all that it could be but theirs is worse.
 

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I guess well-fed doctors on guaranteed income are more concentrated on patient care than those who worry about meeting payroll or generating billing.
Where are these paragons? I'm not saying they don't exist, just that in the last 50 years I have not met one. These days you are lucky to have any doctor at all and they know it and take advantage.
 

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Where are these paragons? I'm not saying they don't exist, just that in the last 50 years I have not met one. These days you are lucky to have any doctor at all and they know it and take advantage.
What is the solution to that? Is it more privatization or more government? I think people who work for themselves like entrepreneurs have more incentive to deliver quality.
 

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The solution is to either be a big shot politician or senior bureaucrat with enough pull to get special treatment or be personal friends with the best doctor in town.
 
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